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Old 12-02-2006, 06:27 PM
 
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after i finish 2 years assoc. i would like to move to cali or nyc and maybe open up a vietnamese or simple restuarant...where in california or nyc can i...
1. surf
2.inexpensive rent from $500-1200
3. where do asians and communtities located and live?
4. where can i live thats near the busy night life, and tourists hot spots, and daily day activities, close to almost everything?
5. comparing both states where do you think most likely i will be more successful in the restaurant buisness?
6. COLLEGES- or where can i further my studies in restaurant management and culinary arts? what are the good colleges and where?
planning ahead need your input... thank you!
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:22 AM
 
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I'm thinking that CA will be you choice. Highly doubt you can find the rent prices you desire in NYC and I know you can surf in CA.

Oregon might be another option, there is a culinary institute there
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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after i finish 2 years assoc. i would like to move to cali or nyc and maybe open up a vietnamese or simple restuarant...where in california or nyc can i...
1. surf
2.inexpensive rent from $500-1200
3. where do asians and communtities located and live?
4. where can i live thats near the busy night life, and tourists hot spots, and daily day activities, close to almost everything?
5. comparing both states where do you think most likely i will be more successful in the restaurant buisness?
6. COLLEGES- or where can i further my studies in restaurant management and culinary arts? what are the good colleges and where?
planning ahead need your input... thank you!
In regard to NYC:
1. People do surf in the NY/NJ area, but it is unusual and very different from west coast surfing.
2. No place, unless you like living in crime filled ghettos
Can't really answer 3-6.
Best of luck.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Have you considered Washington state? I don't know about the surfing part but you would be close to Oregon.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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I would steer clear of WA and OR if you want to surf. The water in both of those states is far too cold.

Seattle has a large Asian community, but like I said, if you want to surf, forget about it up there.

California is your best bet. Its overcrowded and run down in alot of areas, but has a large Asian community (as does NYC), and just seems like a better place to start a restaurant with that ethnicity.
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Old 12-03-2006, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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In reference to surfing, one of the best kept secrets is Oregon. "Cold water"? That's why they invented wet suits.
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:22 PM
 
Location: In exile, plotting my coup
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I don't think there's any place in the U.S. that fits all of your criteria. No offese, but it seems to me that based on this post and your other one (Denver vs. Rhode Island in which you asked about the surfing in Colorado) that you're sort of all over the place with what you want. I think you need to prioritize which of your criteria is the most important and then do some research and branch off from there. Take a look at culinary schools and programs, narrow down the choices based on the programs that interest you and that you can afford and then look to fulfill the other criteria.

Any place near the coast or near the tourist hotspots will be a highly desirable area and rents will reflect this and will be more than what you bargain for. However, if you're willing to rent out a room in someone's home or rent an apartment with someone, your price becomes doable.

I'm not sure about what city/area would be better to launch a restaurant in. Both are massive sprawling diverse metropolitan areas so I'd imagine both would be equally good. Southern California has a very large Vietnamese population, concentrated in Orange County, specifically in Westminster and Garden Grove, whereas New York has very few Vietnamese (lots of Asians, but not many Vietnamese). You could look at either situation as a benefit. In LA, you have a built-in customer base, but by the same token, there are many other Vietnamese restaurants to compete with. On the other hand, in New York, there are far fewer Vietnamese restaurants so it's possible that opening one will be incredibly successful, filling a void in the market, or conversely, there will be no interest in it.
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