What Smaller City 50,000 to 700,000 reminds you of a Larger Top Dog Million City like (NYC/Chicago/LA)

[mjlo]

Originally Posted by oobanks

I get your point but reason being, focusing on City limits here, not the entire Metro or entire Urban area so inner City density and feel has a lot to do with feel..

To make the assumption that the population of the entire market doesn't influence the look, size, and feel of the core (as in the inner city) is misguided. Less people in the market means less people commuting from the suburbs, meaning less companies attracted to office space in the core, meaning less demand to build up of a skyline, meaning less people attracted to urbanity looking to move into a core, meaning less demand for urban living and apartment projects, meaning less demand for entertainment, night life, and retail options, meaning less vibrancy at street level, meaning your city of "similar size" all of the sudden seems miniscule in comparison to the city surrounded by millions of people.

The arbitrary lines that make up the governed portions of the city of Atlanta, or Miami, or San Francisco, have absolutely zero bearing on how they look and feel. They "resemble mega cities", because they anchor major cites. It's not a coincidence, there is no secret "it" thing that happens without the rest of the people in the greater urban pocket in which they sit. I will make this argument until I die. If you took the city of Miami and stripped away the rest of S. Florida, can you honestly say with intellectual honesty that the 36 sq mi that makes up Miami would resemble any thing that it does now without 6million people surrounding it?

[oobanks]

Originally Posted by mjlo

To make the assumption that the population of the entire market doesn't influence the look, size, and feel of the core (as in the inner city) is misguided. Less people in the market means less people commuting from the suburbs, meaning less companies attracted to office space in the core, meaning less demand to build up of a skyline, meaning less people attracted to urbanity looking to move into a core, meaning less demand for urban living and apartment projects, meaning less demand for entertainment, night life, and retail options, meaning less vibrancy at street level, meaning your city of "similar size" all of the sudden seems miniscule in comparison to the city surrounded by millions of people.

The arbitrary lines that make up the governed portions of the city of Atlanta, or Miami, or San Francisco, have absolutely zero bearing on how they look and feel. They "resemble mega cities", because they anchor major cites. It's not a coincidence, there is no secret "it" thing that happens without the rest of the people in the greater urban pocket in which they sit. I will make this argument until I die. If you took the city of Miami and stripped away the rest of S. Florida, can you honestly say with intellectual honesty that the 36 sq mi that makes up Miami would resemble any thing that it does now without 6million people surrounding it?

I agree and I don't argue that point,, That's like trying to Argue Jacksonville is more Important than Miami because it's the largest city when we clearly know who the true winner is here, which feels larger and is clearly the largest metro.. This isn't always the case though and that's why it's ok for us to have these discussions and different opinion.. Example Louisville, Ky is a nice size metro, no where as big as Atlanta metro but in some of it's neighborhoods feels a lot larger than Atlanta with it's row houses, feels much more Urban in spots and more Midwestern or Northeastern and note, this has nothing to do with the Cities skyline or number of high rises.. While some people's opinions may be based on the actual skylines, bridges, freeways, transit, etc. New Orleans also feels larger than other larger cities which have been stated in other Treads

[Western Urbanite]

Miami, even on the CSA level, definitely punches above its weight.