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I think the New Orleans central business district where the modern skyscrapers are located should count as a separate downtown from the French Quarter.
The neighborhoods abut each other and form a greater downtown. There's a clear line of demarcation (Canal st), but there's nothing actually separating the two.
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That's a little misleading. How do we know what the street layout looks like? I can post a bunch of skylines of DFW, but at closer look, they're scattered office parks along a freeway. Now I'm not suggesting Buckhead is exactly that, but simply posting a view of tall buildings doesn't say much about the street layout and how those buildings interact with the street.
When I lived in Buckhead (a highrise building directly behind Phipps Plaza), I had walking access to whatever I needed. The Buckhead and Lenox MARTA rail stations were a few minutes away. It certainly felt like nothing even remotely resembling an office park.
Point being, the Buckhead district can offer a suburban experience, but it can offer most any experience you want (except for rural, of course). It covers the northern fifth of the city's land area.
I always thought it was a separate city like Santa Monica. Oops.
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I think the New Orleans central business district where the modern skyscrapers are located should count as a separate downtown from the French Quarter.
Technically the Quarter is downtown and the CBD is Uptown but they are generally both referred to as downtown now. They are also separated by one street, hard to say that's a second downtown rather than the CBD being an extension of downtown (French Quarter).
Technically the Quarter is downtown and the CBD is Uptown but they are generally both referred to as downtown now. They are also separated by one street, hard to say that's a second downtown rather than the CBD being an extension of downtown (French Quarter).
New Orleans has an interesting typology - more like European and Latin American cities - in that the existing city center was historically preserved, and the CBD-area was actually built. I can't think of anywhere else this was done, except in Philly to a limited extent, where the CBD is mostly limited to Logan Square in the NW quadrant of Center City, leaving much of the center of Center City pretty historically intact.
New Orleans has an interesting typology - more like European and Latin American cities - in that the existing city center was historically preserved, and the CBD-area was actually built. I can't think of anywhere else this was done, except in Philly to a limited extent, where the CBD is mostly limited to Logan Square in the NW quadrant of Center City, leaving much of the center of Center City pretty historically intact.
Never thought about that but you're correct. Imagine if it were all preserved. New Orleans would look more like Havana or Buenos Aires.
I thought most American cities have preserved their historic city centers, Boston has the north end, and Seattle has pioneer square, and I'm pretty sure that's the case with many more. Of course the French quarter is probably one of the best examples of this.
I thought most American cities have preserved their historic city centers, Boston has the north end, and Seattle has pioneer square, and I'm pretty sure that's the case with many more. Of course the French quarter is probably one of the best examples of this.
Not really. Most of them razed everything for skyscrapers and parking lots. Even in historically urban cities.
I thought most American cities have preserved their historic city centers, Boston has the north end, and Seattle has pioneer square, and I'm pretty sure that's the case with many more. Of course the French quarter is probably one of the best examples of this.
Some neighborhoods have preserved elements of their "greater downtown" - old urban largely residential neighborhoods within walking distance of the CBD. But in most cases the original downtown areas became totally obliterated by later development starting in the early 20th century.
In a lot of cities - particularly in the Rust Belt and the South - there's more or less a "ring of ruin" surrounding the CBD, so that the first intact neighborhoods you find are what back in the day would have been second-ring urban neighborhoods at best. If the city wasn't that large to begin with, it might go right to streetcar suburbia.
New Orleans has an interesting typology - more like European and Latin American cities - in that the existing city center was historically preserved, and the CBD-area was actually built. I can't think of anywhere else this was done, except in Philly to a limited extent, where the CBD is mostly limited to Logan Square in the NW quadrant of Center City, leaving much of the center of Center City pretty historically intact.
Do you mean Georgetown, and downtown Washington? Arlington isn't the historic area or the CBD.
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