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Seems so silly that there were 248 proposals and yet there re only about 55 metro areas in Canada & the US {Mexico has less than no chance} of over 1,000,000. Some in the US have basically no transit system to speak of and are the anti-thesis of pedestrian friendly environments.
In terms of which cities check all the boxes, it comes down to Boston, NYC, Washington, and Toronto..............huge talent pools, great schools, liberal minded, good transit, pedestrian friendly, low crime {except Washington}, excellent artistic and cultural scenes, cosmopolitan, with high liveability.............in short they have everything going for them in spades. Their collective Achilles Heel is their CoL. They are expensive cities because everyone wants to live there.
The CoL is what hurts them which is where they will have competition from Philly, Chicago, Atlanta, NJ, and Dallas backed up by the bribes some of the cities/states are offering Amazon.
California and Texas must be mostly warehouse employees. Someone on CD was claiming they had a big tech operation in California but the giant campus they claimed seemed to be one midsized building.
We've gone over this several times in this thread. Ive copied and pasted the list of local offices and subsidiaries directly from Amazon's employment page-There are currently 1,000 job openings in the Bay Area and ZERO are warehouse.
I find it so amusing that you appear to be extremely purturbed by the fact that such a huge segment of Amazon's corporate identity and brand is a result of Silicon Valley engineering.
We've gone over this several times in this thread. Ive copied and pasted the list of local offices and subsidiaries directly from Amazon's employment page-There are currently 1,000 job openings in the Bay Area and ZERO are warehouse.
I find it so amusing that you appear to be extremely purturbed by the fact that such a huge segment of Amazon's corporate identity and brand is a result of Silicon Valley engineering.
Actually, there are at least a couple at the warehouse level...Google, and you'll find them. Just don't be so certain in your post, when you can be proven wrong. I'm nitpicking here, but not trying to be snarky.
Anyone have any insight on why some cities proposals are so public while others are saying they signed confidentiality agreements? Perhaps the agreements are with local developers rather than with Amazon, but seems strange how some have managed to be released while others are kept under wraps.
Jacksonville's proposal is confidential. And I know that often in the past when incentives were being considered, the offer and/or company would be confidential until the deal was wrapped. So it may depend on a number of reasons. Some cities may have specific reasons for wanting it to be public and wanting to get as much exposure as possible.
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Seems so silly that there were 248 proposals and yet there re only about 55 metro areas in Canada & the US {Mexico has less than no chance} of over 1,000,000.
A lot of metros didnt follow Amazon's rules and submitted multiple proposals so that's part of the problem. South FL had 3 groups bidding, DC and Dallas had at least 2.
Actually, there are at least a couple at the warehouse level...Google, and you'll find them. Just don't be so certain in your post, when you can be proven wrong. I'm nitpicking here, but not trying to be snarky.
Breadcrumbs and I dont being a little wrong, mhays25 otoh is Waaaaaay wrong and has tried now in 3-4 posts in this thread to downplay the presence of Amazon in the Bay Area-Why? Idk.
Once again here are Amazon offices and subsidiaries in the Bay Area.
Amazon Digital Music | San Francisco, California
Alexa Internet | San Francisco, California
Goodreads | San Francisco, California
Amazon Lab126 | Sunnyvale and Cupertino, California
Alexa | Sunnyvale and Cupertino, California
A9 | Palo Alto, California
Amazon Web Services | San Francisco and Palo Alto, California
Amazon Game Studios | San Francisco and Palo Alto, California
Lab126 in Sunnyvale that has engineered most of the tech products Amazon is known for.
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Amazon Lab126 is an inventive San Francisco Bay Area research and development company that designs and engineers high-profile consumer electronic devices. We engineer devices like Fire tablets, Kindle e-readers, Amazon Fire TV, and Amazon Echo.
So while the rest of the state might have mainly warehouse jobs, the Bay Area most definitely does not. Period.
Furthermore, Seattle is the fastest growing metro for warehouse jobs in the nation, specifically due to Amazon, so maybe cities should consider that when thinking about their dream to be the new HQ.
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The 100 largest metro areas are centers of employment in general warehousing and electronic shopping. Their establishments collectively employed 820,000 workers in 2016, equal to more than 70 percent of the national total.[i] Even more significantly, as the map below illustrates, nearly all metros keep seeing their employment numbers grow. From 2010 to 2016, 89 of the 100 largest metro areas increased their employment, collectively by 286,000 workers (or 54 percent). Seattle, Indianapolis, and Phoenix rank among the fastest growing metro areas, which all feature Amazon warehouses and have more than doubled their 2010 employment levels in these industries.
Yikes. After reading that Brookings Assessment, Im guessing at least half of the '50,000' promised jobs will eventually be warehouse/fulfillment positions, which is honest work for honest labor, more power to them.
I never really believed there would be 50k office/development jobs being created from this second headquarters. I mean, the main Seattle campus has what? About 40k workers or so.
I still believe they should just stick with Seattle and continue growing along with the city. Personally I don't think Amazon's growth is sustainable anyway so if and when the bubble bursts, it might as well only really affect the city it helped grow.
Just put HQ2 in Belluvue if space and costs are an issue, then help develop a transit line between the two.
There will only be a handful of potential locations that it will end up. The state and local municipalities must be tax friendly and be willing to invest in infrastructure projects to support the 50k employees. Secondly the cost of living must be lower so Amazon can lower it's costs of Labor. Finally it must have a relatively large and educated labor pool to pull from.
These criteria sound alot like Texas, Georgia, TN, or possibly NC. I'm thinking somewhere between Austin -> SA, ATL, between Nash -> Know, or outside of Charlotte or potentially in the triangle.
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