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Old 10-22-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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I thought I'd take a shot at classifying cities based on how well they exemplify true tri-state centers.

Here's what I've came up with so far.

Tier 1 (Cities above 100k that border two other states within their city limits

DC
Memphis

Tier 2 (Cities above 100k that border two other states within their metro area

NYC
Chicago
Philly
Cincinnati
Sioux Falls, SD
Chattanooga
Evansville

Tier 3 (Cities above 100k whose metros are within proximity to two other states

Baltimore
Las Vegas
Pittsburgh
Shreveport


Would you add any cities to these lists? Would you remove any? Would you move any around?
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Old 10-22-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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Great thread idea. Pittsburgh (PA, OH, WV) would belong in Tier 2, not Tier 3, as its CSA includes WV and OH. And Huntington, WV (Tier 2), while under 100K in the city proper, anchors a metro of 360K, which is not insignificant at all, especially when it's the largest metro in West Virginia.
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Old 10-22-2017, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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The Washington-Baltimore CSA includes West Virginia and Pennsylvania, and even borders Delaware! Of course, nobody calls it the DMVWVPA.

How many CSAs cross over more than 3 states is another question:
Boston (4): Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island
New York (4): Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania
Philadelphia (4): Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania
Washington-Baltimore (4+1*): District of Columbia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia
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Old 10-22-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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Great thread idea. Pittsburgh (PA, OH, WV) would belong in Tier 2, not Tier 3, as its CSA includes WV and OH. And Huntington, WV (Tier 2), while under 100K in the city proper, anchors a metro of 360K, which is not insignificant at all, especially when it's the largest metro in West Virginia.
Thanks. I purposely limited the list to >100k in the city proper but Huntington would be a great additional example.

Maybe I (or anyone else who would like to) can make another list later on with 100k+ metros.
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Old 10-22-2017, 04:16 PM
 
Location: TPA
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Imo NYC has much more influence on Connecticut than Memphis does on Arkansas. Mobile also belongs on this list, and I'd say Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson exerts some tri-state influence as well as both GA and NC counties are part of the media market.
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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NYC- Northern NJ, Fairfield County/New Haven CT
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:04 PM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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Philadelphia
PA, DE, and NJ
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Erie, PA
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Erie, PA (PA, OH, and NY)
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Old 10-22-2017, 11:44 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Vegas? No not really, except for a nearby border with Arizona at Bullhead City. Where is the third? It certainly is not California as there is no population anywhere near the California border.
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Old 10-23-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Terramaria
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Vegas? No not really, except for a nearby border with Arizona at Bullhead City. Where is the third? It certainly is not California as there is no population anywhere near the California border.
Outside of a lottery store that somehow crosses the state line, Vegas has pretty much no influence on California. You could though have Needles/Bullhead City and the Mohave Valley/Laughlin as a small metro down in Tier 4 that I'll explain below.

I'd include Joplin, MO, Dubuque, IA, Sioux City, IA, and Huntington, WV in Tier 4. I'd even sneak Mobile up into Tier 3.

On the southwest edge of Joplin's metro is a casino just sneaks across the line into Oklahoma (to access it, you take the last exit in Missouri on I-44 southbound, and are then forced to drive into Kansas right at its southeast corner for a bit before heading inside. The OK/KS state line goes right through the parking lot for the casino.

Dubuque is right in the heart of the driftless where Iowa, Wisconsin, and Illinois come together.

Sioux City's state tripoint lies at the junction of the Missouri and Big Sioux rivers where Iowa, South Dakota, and Nebraska meet.

Huntington is on the Ohio River just across from West Virginia and the sprawl along the south bank of the river extends well into Kentucky, including Ashland, its largest suburb.

Another possible 4-state metro is Texarkana of course was named for its proximity to three states, even though it only directly borders two and Oklahoma is just as close as Louisiana. WHAG-TV in Hagerstown, MD often advertises in their station branding as being part of a four-state area (MD, PA, WV, and VA), but its really the northwestern edge of the DC/Baltimore CSA.

As a bonus, I'd add El Paso for a binational one (Texas/New Mexico/Chihuahua, MX)
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