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Three very important factors that separate Baltimore from the south are:
1. The second largest port of enty for immigrants after NYC.
2. The "Catholic"colony in that it was settled by Catholics and many of the immigrants who came into port in Baltimore stayed there.
3. A very large Jewish community. One of the largest in the country.
These three factors alone align Baltimore much more with the northeast corridor than the south. Added to that are transportation and industry.
New Orleans density is not on par with DC, Baltimore, Philly and Boston! It's more inline with southern cities like Atlanta, Houston and Dallas at around 3,000 people per square mile. Second, New Orleans does not have great mass transit or a hughe downtown core. But it is walkable.
MdToaz
DC is one of the anchors of the NE corridor. We can argue all day long about historical culture but what I mentioned is a fact. DC is not NE like Boston or NYC but it boast many of the same characteristics of the NE.
My head is hurting, I just finished reading that ATL vs Hou trash. Why don't we both claim D.C. and B'More or just give B'More to the Northeast and let D.C. stay in the South,I have a feeling that you'll bring up the character of the MD cities, and I agree a little. Baltimore and D.C. are both way older than Atlanta, Miami, Orlando and the urban TX cities but they are going through the same things that the more established Northeastern cities already went through. What I am saying is that you have two Southern cities who were not overly independent and stayed smart and followed the lead of the "TRUE" Northeastern cities.
Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Columbus are Midwestern. Charleston, West Virginia I don't like to group with either the Northeast or the South, but if I had to pick one, it would definitely be the South. All other cities on the list fit the bill IMO.
The Northeast can have WV to balance things out. Think about it, how would the Sunbelt be when it becomes whole and established? I think it's going to show the same characteristics that some of the Northeastern cities already show. The Northeast has always been more urban while the Southeast has been sort of rural (MD escaped that trait) and I think that's what a lot of people use when they think Northeast.
The Northeast can have WV to balance things out. Think about it, how would the Sunbelt be when it becomes whole and established? I think it's going to show the same characteristics that some of the Northeastern cities already show.
With the exception of the panhandle of WV, that state is much more in tuned with the South culturally, and architecturally. I personally see a huge difference when I cross the WV/PA line.
It would have made more sense to have put Wheeling, WV on the list rather than Charleston. I can't think of too many NE cities with a large statue of Stonewall Jackson in the middle of it.
It would have made more sense to have put Wheeling, WV on the list rather than Charleston. I can't think of too many NE cities with a large statue of Stonewall Jackson in the middle of it.
I tried to include the largest cities from each state that I've seen defined as Northeast at some point (with the exception of the Ohio cities and Seattle).
I have relatives in the southwestern part of Virginia and we would frequent West Virginia's state parks and cities. I have been visiting WV for about 15 years.
WV has a different feel from VA. Charleston, WV and the southern and central parts of WV are not northeastern. However, it's not southern like Alabama and Georgia. It's more like a southern/midwestern mix with an Appalachian twist. The cities look different from southern cities too. They resemble cities in the Rust Belt. Also, many West Virginians refer to cold drinks as "pop", a midwestern term. But the southern term "y'all" is heard alot too.
Northern WV (Wheeling, Weirton, Morgantown) has close ties to OH and PA and has a more northern feel to them. They even look at you weird when you try to order sweet tea.
Three very important factors that separate Baltimore from the south are:
1. The second largest port of enty for immigrants after NYC.
2. The "Catholic"colony in that it was settled by Catholics and many of the immigrants who came into port in Baltimore stayed there.
3. A very large Jewish community. One of the largest in the country.
These three factors alone align Baltimore much more with the northeast corridor than the south. Added to that are transportation and industry.
Good points, it doesn't even matter anymore. I guess time can make anything fade away. I'm suprised that Pittsburgh wasn't voted on by more people.
Off Topic: Wouldn't it have been great if J Oglethorpe ran Georgia the way he intended it to be (y'all don't have to post any replys).
New Orleans density is not on par with DC, Baltimore, Philly and Boston! It's more inline with southern cities like Atlanta, Houston and Dallas at around 3,000 people per square mile. Second, New Orleans does not have great mass transit or a hughe downtown core. But it is walkable.
MdToaz
DC is one of the anchors of the NE corridor. We can argue all day long about historical culture but what I mentioned is a fact. DC is not NE like Boston or NYC but it boast many of the same characteristics of the NE.
That's only if your looking at the density of the city limits. The city limits of New Orleans takes up all of Orleans Parish, of which, about 50% is water and wetlands. If you took the density of the livable portions of the city, you would find it much higher than other comparable southern cities such as Atlanta, Houston, and Dallas. And yes, it does have a sizable downtown core, and do you care to explain how a city where >30% of the population does not have a vehicle could possibly do without good public transportation. It may not have a subway system, but it has a huge fleet of buses that serves the entire city. I love when people try to assume that most southern cities have horrible public transportation just because they don't have a huge rail system...Baton Rouge, on the other hand, has horrible public transportation any way you look at it lol.
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