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Old 01-03-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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I'm surprised people are moving to Alabama.
Probably due to Huntsville, which has some manufacturing and tech employment. I believe that Mobile has also seen some manufacturing growth as well.

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Old 01-03-2018, 01:13 PM
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Location: Miami
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I'm surprised people are moving to Alabama.
Work, Jobs, Employment.
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:15 PM
 
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I found the data in Census Factfinder. Totals for 2015-2016:

Northeast:
New York -191,367
New Jersey -66,791
Pennsylvania -45,565
Connecticut -29,880
Maryland -26,232
Massachusetts -25,606
Rhode Island -3,784
Vermont -2,865

Maine 2,169
New Hampshire 2,187
District of Columbia 2,276
Delaware 3,027

A few more states (Maine and New Hampshire) are gaining now

Midwest:
Illinois -114,144
Michigan -27,839
Ohio -27,558
Kansas -18,595
Wisconsin -12,395
Indiana -12,135
North Dakota -6,259
Missouri -6,250
Alaska -4,587
Wyoming -4,347
Iowa -3,392
Nebraska -2,144
Minnesota -1,762

South Dakota 941

South Dakota remains the only Midwestern state seeing a net influx of migrants.

West:
California -109,023
Hawaii -10,021
New Mexico -9,748

Montana 6,853
Idaho 17,143
Utah 19,778
Nevada 34,575
Oregon 50,038
Colorado 50,216
Arizona 61,544
Washington 67,571

Virtually everywhere in the West is seeing transplants, save CA, HI, and NM.

South:
Virginia -25,343
Louisiana -12,243
Mississippi -9,690
West Virginia -7,659
Oklahoma -3,822
Kentucky -3,429
Alabama -864

Arkansas 195
Tennessee 30,519
Georgia 36,781
South Carolina 47,084
North Carolina 59,584
Texas 125,703
Florida 207,155

The South is mixed. As has been the case in the past, TX and the Atlantic Coastal southern states tend to capture all of the migration, with the interior south (save Tennessee) seeing little to no growth.
There was a thread from the US Census that had the latest number, including the population +/- over the last 5-10 years. They don't reflect these numbers. MA was +~60k in the last two years as an example. Are the numbers you posted specific to one theme? Confused.

https://census.gov/data/datasets/201...ion-total.html

To save you some time, heres the population number shift between 2015-17 by state:

.Alabama 23,889
.Alaska 1,816
.Arizona 214,008
.Arkansas 28,653
.California 504,209
.Colorado 166,709
.Connecticut -5,678
.Delaware 17,832
.District of Columbia 21,236
.Florida 715,833
.Georgia 229,846
.Hawaii 1,218
.Idaho 67,619
.Illinois -60,028
.Indiana 56,222
.Iowa 27,238
.Kansas 7,334
.Kentucky 32,132
.Louisiana 13,122
.Maine 8,120
.Maryland 51,616
.Massachusetts 65,817
.Michigan 44,141
.Minnesota 93,368
.Mississippi -1,197
.Missouri 40,892
.Montana 22,176
.Nebraska 26,512
.Nevada 114,982
.New Hampshire12,661
.New Jersey 45,643
.New Mexico 5,806
.New York 30,052
.North Carolina 231,650
.North Dakota 534
.Ohio 52,582
.Oklahoma 26,511
.Oregon 126,239
.Pennsylvania 14,413
.Rhode Island 3,723
.South Carolina 131,946
.South Dakota 15,630
.Tennessee 125,258
.Texas 849,716
.Utah 116,916
.Vermont -798
.Virginia 103,253
.Washington 252,925
.West Virginia -23,910
.Wisconsin 35,739
.Wyoming -6,787

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Old 01-03-2018, 01:23 PM
 
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It's only a matter of time before parts of the south and west become similar to the Northeast in terms of COL.
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:24 PM
 
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It's only a matter of time before parts of the south and west become similar to the Northeast in terms of COL.
Then where will everyone go? Michigan?
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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There was a thread from the US Census that had the latest number, including the population +/- over the last 5-10 years. They don't reflect these numbers. MA was +~60k in the last two years as an example. Are the numbers you posted specific to one theme? Confused.
I listed only net domestic migration, which is one of the three components of population growth.

Basically growth is:

1. Natural population change (births minus deaths)
2. Net domestic migration (people moving in less people moving out - includes Puerto Rico)
3. International immigration

Most states in the Northeast and Midwest lose net domestic migrants each year, but population growth continues due to new babies being born and immigration from outside the U.S.
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:45 PM
 
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I listed only net domestic migration, which is one of the three components of population growth.

Basically growth is:

1. Natural population change (births minus deaths)
2. Net domestic migration (people moving in less people moving out - includes Puerto Rico)
3. International immigration

Most states in the Northeast and Midwest lose net domestic migrants each year, but population growth continues due to new babies being born and immigration from outside the U.S.
Got it! Figured I was missing something.
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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It's only a matter of time before parts of the south and west become similar to the Northeast in terms of COL.
Some parts of those regions actually already have a higher overall cost of living than parts of the Northeast. Interior Northeastern areas have an overall cost of living just below to around the national average. Go check out the Bureau of Economic Analysis Price Parities section to see what I am referring to.

A pattern I notice is that taxes/tax rates may be higher in those Interior Northeastern areas, but housing prices may be higher in select areas in the West and South. Usually those areas that are popular in those regions will have higher median homes prices. Check out the Wells Fargo/National Association of Homebuilders Housing Opportunity Index, which also uses median family income in relation to median home prices for a number of areas. It is updated by quarter and it actually factors in property taxes.
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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Obviously this is sloppy reporting that fails to recognize regional nuance to many migration patterns.
How much of Oregon's, Idaho's, and Nevada's domestic migration is actually coming from California? For that matter, how many new Washington residents are coming from California or other places in the West for jobs in booming Seattle? How many people are actually leaving the Northeast for the Southeast and not to the West? As Northeasterners continue to pour into Florida, how many Floridians are heading "half-back" to the Carolinas? I see Midwestern plates all over Texas each time I go there. These folks are essentially migrating more to the South than either East or West.
Certainly there is migration from the East to the West as well as in reverse, and these sweeping proclamations are not telling the real migration story. Even in the case of SC, how many are actually moving to the Charlotte area of NC for a job but settling in the suburbs of SC instead?
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Old 01-03-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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I'm surprised people are moving to Alabama.
There are some good blue collar jobs in Alabama including several auto manufacturers for foreign companies.

That is why people are moving there but it's mainly from MS/LA.
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