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Old 01-12-2018, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Manhattan!
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Lol, yep! I've been to those Ocean Parkway apartment buildings tons of times. They all look the same to me not just on the outside but on the inside too. Eastern Parkway has these same buildings too. They all have this really tiny elevator that seems to break down constantly in every single one of these buildings somehow.

Either way, those buildings fit lots of homes in them and allow for very high density. Those buildings usually have lettered apartments with a number for each floor (1A, 4E, 6C, etc). I wanna say they usually go up to F or H or something like that, but I'm not 100% sure.

Yeah the point of the Borough Park streetview was to show the surrounding areas to Kensington. But you're right: Kensington definitely is an urban neighborhood even though it has some areas with a suburban-ish look.

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My uncle used to live in Sunset Park and his building had a backyard, my granduncle used to live in Greenwich Village and he had a backyard too.
Wow, imagine living in The Village and having a backyard. Your granduncle had it made! I don't think backyards lessen the degree of urbanness at all. Here are some more very urban buildings and areas I know with backyards. You could walk by these places and never even know.

Manhattan:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7184...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7259...7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7270...7i16384!8i8192

Brooklyn
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7076...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7033...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6760...7i13312!8i6656

Queens
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6968...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7435...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:00 PM
 
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Lol, yep! I've been to those Ocean Parkway apartment buildings tons of times. They all look the same to me not just on the outside but on the inside too. Eastern Parkway has these same buildings too. They all have this really tiny elevator that seems to break down constantly in every single one of these buildings somehow.

Either way, those buildings fit lots of homes in them and allow for very high density. Those buildings usually have lettered apartments with a number for each floor (1A, 4E, 6C, etc). I wanna say they usually go up to F or H or something like that, but I'm not 100% sure.

Yeah the point of the Borough Park streetview was to show the surrounding areas to Kensington. But you're right: Kensington definitely is an urban neighborhood even though it has some areas with a suburban-ish look.



Wow, imagine living in The Village and having a backyard. Your granduncle had it made! I don't think backyards lessen the degree of urbanness at all. Here are some more very urban buildings and areas I know with backyards. You could walk by these places and never even know.

Manhattan:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7184...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7259...7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7270...7i16384!8i8192

Brooklyn
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7076...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7033...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6760...7i13312!8i6656

Queens
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6968...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7435...7i13312!8i6656
My grandmother's building goes up to at least S if I'm not mistaken. It has a smallish elevator but it doesnt seem to break down often.

Even the blocks with what appear to be SFHs don't really feel suburban to me because there are almost always mid rise apartment buildings either on the block or within short distance.

Yeah that brownstone was awesome, I would love to have something like that. That thing would probably sell for 8 figures today. If interested, I'll tell you more about that via private message.

And yeah I don't think the backyards lessen the urbanity either, most of them seem to be pretty small anyway. Just imagine being young and owning one of thoughs, that would be a blast.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Manhattan!
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My grandmother's building goes up to at least S if I'm not mistaken. It has a smallish elevator but it doesnt seem to break down often.

Even the blocks with what appear to be SFHs don't really feel suburban to me because there are almost always mid rise apartment buildings either on the block or within short distance.

Yeah that brownstone was awesome, I would love to have something like that. That thing would probably sell for 8 figures today. If interested, I'll tell you more about that via private message.

And yeah I don't think the backyards lessen the urbanity either, most of them seem to be pretty small anyway. Just imagine being young and owning one of thoughs, that would be a blast.
Yeah, sure I’m interested!

And ugh, I know. That would be living the dream. I live on the 2nd floor of a walk up building with a backyard in Williamsburg. The backyard is only for the 1st floor apartment and I can see it from the window of my apartment. It’s not huge, but it has a fireplace, a hammock, and a few chairs. My downstairs neighbors are young, mid-twenties, typical millennial Williamsburg people, but I think I’ve only seen them use the backyard once or twice. Most of the time (at least when I’m there) it sits empty, which is such a waste... smh

I’m sure most people in their 20s in NYC would love to have a backyard apartment in Williamsburg. Part of me wants to hate them for it but OTOH I’m kind of glad because me and my roommates get so jealous watching them on the rare occasion that they do go out... lol.
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Old 01-13-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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Yeah, sure I’m interested!

And ugh, I know. That would be living the dream. I live on the 2nd floor of a walk up building with a backyard in Williamsburg. The backyard is only for the 1st floor apartment and I can see it from the window of my apartment. It’s not huge, but it has a fireplace, a hammock, and a few chairs. My downstairs neighbors are young, mid-twenties, typical millennial Williamsburg people, but I think I’ve only seen them use the backyard once or twice. Most of the time (at least when I’m there) it sits empty, which is such a waste... smh

I’m sure most people in their 20s in NYC would love to have a backyard apartment in Williamsburg. Part of me wants to hate them for it but OTOH I’m kind of glad because me and my roommates get so jealous watching them on the rare occasion that they do go out... lol.
Wow even a fireplave and hammock? What a waste!

I wonder how many buildings have communal backyards, I think that would be even cooler. Everything from little hangouts to big multicultural barbecues.
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:49 PM
 
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To me, those pictures seem urban. The houses are too close together to be suburban. Also, number 3 is especially urban. Suburban needs to be spread out, single family houses with garages and driveways.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:34 PM
 
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Interesting question. I don't think it can be determined on a block-by-block basis, but by looking at the larger area. If the single family homes are among a more mixed use neighborhood, apartments, or multi-family homes, I wouldn't strictly call it suburban, either. When there are continuous blocks, or larger subdivisions, where single family homes are segregated from non-SFH use areas, that IMO represents suburban development.

Personally, I use the term "urban" to differentiate areas which can support a pedestrian-based lifestyle, and "suburban" where it must exclusively require use of an automobile.

Since all of the examples from the OP are roughly in the same area, and are close to walkable business district and public transit, I would define them as all urban (in my American-based definition).
Yes!
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Trieste
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To me they all look suburban
I don't see grocery stores, banks, condos, barber shops, schools, etc and no bike lanes
only single family house, on every direction you watch.
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:29 AM
 
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To me they all look suburban
I don't see grocery stores, banks, condos, barber shops, schools, etc and no bike lanes
only single family house, on every direction you watch.
Do you live in a city? Even in our most urban cities, those things tend to be confined to the main neighborhood thoroughfares. Even in Manhattan, side streets in residential neighborhoods are almost purely residential? It’s asinine to contend that there’s anything suburban about #3, a block full of rowhouses with small setbacks.
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Trieste
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Do you live in a city?
Yes I do
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Even in our most urban cities, those things tend to be confined to the main neighborhood thoroughfares. Even in Manhattan, side streets in residential neighborhoods are almost purely residential? It’s asinine to contend that there’s anything suburban about #3, a block full of rowhouses with small setbacks.
residential yes but not in the sense of low density single family houses
also in a residential area I would expect at the corner a bar, a newsagent, a baker of some sort...
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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Yes I do

residential yes but not in the sense of low density single family houses
also in a residential area I would expect at the corner a bar, a newsagent, a baker of some sort...
I think I’m inclined to agree with you. At least have a bodega or something.
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