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Bezos is a rat. He is going to stick fewer than 3,000 employees in a second city as a permanent bargaining chip against the city of Seattle. All of this for free courtesy of dumb politicians and taxpayers.
Last edited by bluecarebear; 09-02-2018 at 05:46 AM..
Yeah, a lot of people who work on the administrative/office side have nothing but positive typings to say about the company.
Really? According to bezos’ biography people work their asses off and leave after just a few years. Supposedly when asked about a work/life balance, Bezos replied that if an employee is looking for a work life balance, that amazon may not be the place for them.
Really? According to bezos’ biography people work their asses off and leave after just a few years. Supposedly when asked about a work/life balance, Bezos replied that if an employee is looking for a work life balance, that amazon may not be the place for them.
Sounds like every Fortune 500 company I've worked for/at.
Last edited by citidata18; 09-03-2018 at 09:57 AM..
That sucks. It doesn’t sound at all like the one that I work for. Working 70-80 hours per week is not sustainable for a career for most of us.
I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that working 70-80 hours per week is normal in Amazon's corporate offices.
Below is a more non-bias analysis of employee feedback from Amazon's corporate employees, and even they admit that reviews from a large number of employees show that Amazon corporate overall offers a good work-life balance.
All of that being said, like with all big corporations, a person's mileage will vary based on the manager(s) they report to. It's no different when it comes to Amazon. As an example, the below article shares separate experiences that 2 salaried employees had at General Motors...
And the answer Bezos gave is how the typical big corporate CEO feels. Most of them will give you some bull**** answer and not be so blunt, but he is absolutely correct in that companies don't really care about your needs beyond what they have to offer in order for you (or whoever they replace you with) to remain productive.
And people leaving positions every few years for positions in other companies is perfectly normal and happens everywhere. There's no good reason for employees to remain loyal to one employer any more. It's not like they're going to get a pension and gold watch when they retire these days.
Last edited by citidata18; 09-03-2018 at 10:33 AM..
I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that working 70-80 hours per week is normal in Amazon's corporate offices.
Below is a more non-bias analysis of employee feedback from Amazon's corporate employees, and even they admit that reviews from a large number of employees show that Amazon corporate overall offers a good work-life balance.
All of that being said, like with all big corporations, a person's mileage will vary based on the manager(s) they report to. It's no different when it comes to Amazon. As an example, the below article shares separate experiences that 2 salaried employees had at General Motors...
And the answer Bezos gave is how the typical big corporate CEO feels. Most of them will give you some bull**** answer and not be so blunt, but he is absolutely correct in that companies don't really care about your needs beyond what they have to offer in order for you (or whoever they replace you with) to remain productive.
And people leaving positions every few years for positions in other companies is perfectly normal and happens everywhere. There's no good reason for employees to remain loyal to one employer any more. It's not like they're going to get a pension and gold watch when they retire these days.
A comment from your first link “In 1863 Lincoln freed the slaves and in 1995 Jeff Bezos found a loophole.” Lol
“Churn and burn” culture.
“I’ve seen every employee that I work with cry at their desk.”
Amazon has a reputation for being an entry level job that hires kids out of school that don’t know any better and they work their asses off for a few years before leaving for more friendly work environments. Sounds like that’s still the case, but improving.
And I say 70-80 hours per week because that’s what I’ve heard from people that work at places with a similar culture like SpaceX. At SpaceX you can make $150,000 per year for a low level engineering job, but are expected to work 12 hours per day, 6 days per week. I’ve heard that amazon is similar, but maybe that’s off. Either way it’s clear from your links that they work well in excess of 40 hours.
A comment from your first link “In 1863 Lincoln freed the slaves and in 1995 Jeff Bezos found a loophole.” Lol
“Churn and burn” culture.
“I’ve seen every employee that I work with cry at their desk.”
Amazon has a reputation for being an entry level job that hires kids out of school that don’t know any better and they work their asses off for a few years before leaving for more friendly work environments. Sounds like that’s still the case, but improving.
And I say 70-80 hours per week because that’s what I’ve heard from people that work at places with a similar culture like SpaceX. At SpaceX you can make $150,000 per year for a low level engineering job, but are expected to work 12 hours per day, 6 days per week. I’ve heard that amazon is similar, but maybe that’s off. Either way it’s clear from your links that they work well in excess of 40 hours.
To be clear, my link did *NOT* say "they" work well in excess of 40 hours. So I'm still not sure where you're getting that assumption from.
In response to the bolded, again, sounds like every big corporation as far as people working there long enough to milk the higher payscales / generous benefits and pad their resume with some big fancy name only to jump ship for better opportunities.
As far as the claim about employees crying at their desk, again, you can find those types of anecdotes at any big corporations if you look hard enough. Furthermore, it's a good idea to take negative feedback with a grain of salt, especially if the overwhelming feedback stands in contrast to it. When people are angry or feel they've been wronged, they're more likely to go out of their way to rant about their experience than people who had a generally positive experience.
Concerning that comment you referenced in my link, it's someone's opinion which they're entitled to, but they say opinions are like *******s for a reason.
In any event, I think it's clear we're not going to agree when it comes to Amazon's environment for corporate employees.
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