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View Poll Results: HQ2 location?
Atlanta, GA 109 18.47%
Austin, TX 44 7.46%
Boston, MA 52 8.81%
Chicago, IL 85 14.41%
Columbus, OH 27 4.58%
Dallas, TX 71 12.03%
Denver, CO 29 4.92%
Indianapolis, IN 33 5.59%
Los Angeles, CA 12 2.03%
Miami, FL 16 2.71%
Montgomery County, MD 27 4.58%
Nashville, TN 26 4.41%
Newark, NJ 22 3.73%
New York, NY 23 3.90%
Northern Virginia 65 11.02%
Philadelphia, PA 51 8.64%
Pittsburgh, PA 47 7.97%
Raleigh, N.C. 43 7.29%
Toronto, ON 31 5.25%
Washington, D.C. 72 12.20%
Other (Specify) 13 2.20%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 590. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-06-2018, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Also, how is it possible that a city can consistently run net negative migration for decade after decade? Wouldn't they eventually run out of people? One huge factor is lifecycle: two single people each move to a city, meet, get married, have two kids, and then four people leave. Maybe two new young singles move in to take their place. Net result: domestic out-migration of two -- yet the city has exactly the same population as it had in the first place. Is this cycle really that notable, though?
People have babies. In Brooklyn, there were 185,409 more births than deaths between 2010 and 2017. Factor in immigration and there's your population growth. Now compare that to Allegheny County, PA which had more deaths than births during the same period.
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Old 11-06-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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The other items this article https://www.chicagobusiness.com/news...-want-real-hq2 pointed out that are important factors to consider, are:

1. Amazon went back on its promise to create a real HQ2,

2. Cities/states need to go back and look at their incentive packages.... because those were put together with a real HQ2 in mind,

3. Cities/states need to tie their incentives in to "actual jobs created"

4. Although it is perfectly within their right to do so.... there is nothing to stop Amazon from changing this current promise too... possibly changing this into 4 cities.... 8 cities, 16 cities, etc.

What a mess! .......... Lol


I would be remiss if I did not say congrats to the perceived winners by the way.... kudos.... just be sure to make Amazon earn it!

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Old 11-06-2018, 03:25 PM
 
Location: OC
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I can't fault you for that. It's hard to say whether they knew they wanted NYC and DC from the jump. If they weren't negotiating in good faith though I can't blame folks being aggravated.

It's just really hard to prove anything either way. I don't think its outside the realm of possibility that they favored NY and DC (or similar places) initially. I also don't think its unreasonable to think another one of the cities could have snatched it up if they made Amazon something of a Godfather offer that they really can't refuse. It's just hard to say and the fact that they chose two dense, expensive, East Coast cities without throwing a bone anywhere else does give the theory that they already knew what they wanted a lot of credibility.

One thing is for certain though - they've turned a bunch of people off with this process. Regardless of whether they knew or didn't know which cities they were going to choose before doing all of this, a lot of people see it exactly as you do.
Pretty sure they toured every city in the top 20, some multiple times.
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Williamsburg, VA
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One thing is for certain though - they've turned a bunch of people off with this process. Regardless of whether they knew or didn't know which cities they were going to choose before doing all of this, a lot of people see it exactly as you do.

LOL I don't think Jeff Bezos loses any sleep worrying about people on a social media site who feel "turned off." Or even people in the real world, for that matter.
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Old 11-06-2018, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Atlanta hold this L!
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Old 11-06-2018, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Who wants to move to expensive NYC and DC?
NYC has some of the highest demand in this country along with DC. Why do people like you who have sensitive wallets always assume that nobody wants to move to expensive cities? Demand is why those cities are expensive in the first place and many southern cities are moving up the expense ladder as we speak!
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Old 11-06-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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That’s your opinion. Go on with your east coast bias.
How is that an opinion?
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Old 11-07-2018, 12:03 AM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Here is The Seattle Times take on recent developments:

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...-amazons-hq2s/
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Old 11-07-2018, 12:15 AM
 
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Atlanta hold this L!
No official announcement has been made yet. Even so, Atlanta has been doing pretty well when it comes to racking up corporate relocations and expansions lately; an actual F500 headquarters is preparing a move to the city right now actually.
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Old 11-07-2018, 09:05 AM
 
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No official announcement has been made yet. Even so, Atlanta has been doing pretty well when it comes to racking up corporate relocations and expansions lately; an actual F500 headquarters is preparing a move to the city right now actually.
No one disputes Corporate gifts some states offer for Corporate relocations to the Sunbelt..... much more then just Amazon.. its to virtually any. It clearly has aided Atlanta in Georgia and Texas cities.

To a degree its unfair advantage. But what competition is and the Sunbelt has won in the degree of a shift Corporate America has steered us. I just don't think one city is supreme over the other rising ones. Even upper-southern states are in this game more now.
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