Are These Cities North or South (Culturally Speaking)?

[SunGrins]

Originally Posted by Ben Around

Wonder why the FL panhandle doesn't get biscuits? Southern culture there, at least away from the tourist areas of the Gulf Coast.

Regardless of the map, Missouri got both biscuits and McMuffins... we were still a border state, I guess.

[Vanderbiltgrad]

The old joke used to be in Boston if you are from past Baltimore you entered the Deep South.

[SunGrins]

Originally Posted by England Dan

I did see a great series called Frontiersmen, I think on National Geo ,which showed the great Daniel Boone exploring the Kentucky wilderness, that nailed it as a southern state. I have always thought Kentucky with its Derby, same as British racing Derby, had a British Isles feel as with much of the South plus copious tea drinking ( as Britain and Ireland) Ohio though even as a Brit would be clear Northern . There is a blurred border by the look of it

Daniel Boone is fascinating but not much of a southern icon. He was born in Pennsylvania to a family of Quakers. He was his own man and a frontiersman and Indian fighter who eventually left the US to start over in Spanish-owned Missouri and became a local official there. The US expansion caught up with him and he was hounded by debtors who he thought he had left behind, He died in Missouri (territory) in 1820. Had he been born a generation or two later he probably would have been exploring with Lewis and Clark or Zebulon Pike or a western Mountain Man/trapper.

[_Buster]

Originally Posted by revitalizer

Just not purely geographic ones. The southern part of New Jersey is due east of DC.

But anyway, take a look at the poll results.

Only the very extreme southern tip of NJ is east of DC, around Cape May. 99.5% of the state is further north.

[revitalizer]

Originally Posted by _Buster

Only the very extreme southern tip of NJ is east of DC, around Cape May. 99.5% of the state is further north.

I just find it interesting that a portion of the state of New Jersey is parallel (East) to DC, as we talk about pure geography (not political or cultural geography) in reference to DC's location on the East Coast.

I think DC political and cultural-influenced geography has a place to be debated, but pure planetary geography definitely shows some things as well in relation to DC's location in the United States.

I know this thread is about culture, for which DC doesn't fit neatly into North or South. Just advocating for Mid-Atlantic designation, which seems more appropriate. DC has a geographical Mid-Atlantic location as well as representing cultural Mid-Atlantic traits. Wink.

[manitopiaaa]

Originally Posted by revitalizer

I just find it interesting that a portion of the state of New Jersey is parallel (East) to DC, as we talk about pure geography (not political or cultural geography) in reference to DC's location on the East Coast.

I think DC political and cultural-influenced geography has a place to be debated, but pure planetary geography definitely shows some things as well in relation to DC's location in the United States.

I know this thread is about culture, for which DC doesn't fit neatly into North or South. Just advocating for Mid-Atlantic designation, which seems more appropriate. DC has a geographical Mid-Atlantic location as well as representing cultural Mid-Atlantic traits. Wink.

There is already a Mid-Atlantic thread and that designation itself is extremely complicated.

I consider the Mid-Atlantic to be split into North and South as well.

North Mid-Atlantic is New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Delaware, with the New York-Philadelphia corridor as the core.

South Mid-Atlantic is Maryland, DC, Virginia and West Virginia, with the Baltimore-Washington corridor as the core.

Add New England into the mix and those three form the 'Northeast'

But a lot of people consider the Mid-Atlantic to be a subset of the North. As such, no Southern state (Virginia) could be a part of it.


As for your first sentence, Virginia is more Western than West Virginia. In fact, there are parts of Virginia to the West of Detroit and Columbus, OH (two Mid-West states). So if this were purely geographical, does that make Virginia Mid-West? When you get into geography, there are some quirky results.