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Respectfully disagree. I found December, January, and February to be harsh but still enough to do in terms of winter sports. We get enough snow for all of the good stuff you can do in the UP. The rest were decent with good amounts of snow up until late March for snow activities. April is the awkward month of Snud (Snow and Mud). The rest are pretty decent. There is plenty to do year round if you know how to dress.
Weather isn’t listed as a criteria probably because people have different preferences.
Yes, people have different preferences for weather, but most people's preferences tend towards mild, or at least moderate. Witness the growth of the sunbelt.
Since the OP said cities >200,000 I will point out the farthest north cities of that size from west to east in each row of states, excluding the west coast, which has a totally different climate. Boise, ID; Denver; Omaha, NE; Minneapolis; Milwaukee; Detroit; Cleveland; Pittsburgh; Buffalo, NY; Rochester, NY; Boston. The following northern states have no cities >200,000 people in their entirety-Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Maine; New Hampshire; Vermont, Rhode Island (though RI is south of Boston). I think this indicates a preference for somewhat warmer climates. Duluth doesn't even have 100,000 people.
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Yes, people have different preferences for weather, but most people's preferences tend towards mild, or at least moderate. Witness the growth of the sunbelt.
Since the OP said cities >200,000 I will point out the farthest north cities of that size from west to east in each row of states, excluding the west coast, which has a totally different climate. Boise, ID; Denver; Omaha, NE; Minneapolis; Milwaukee; Detroit; Cleveland; Pittsburgh; Buffalo, NY; Rochester, NY; Boston. The following northern states have no cities >200,000 people in their entirety-Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Maine; New Hampshire; Vermont, Rhode Island (though RI is south of Boston). I think this indicates a preference for somewhat warmer climates. Duluth doesn't even have 100,000 people.
We should leave it to the OP to clarify his/her qualification for population. Duluth MSA is about 270,000 people. If we are strictly talking city limits, I will concede. I do note that Minneapolis only has an official population of about 410,000 making it smaller than even Sacramento. No one is about to make the claim that Minneapolis for all intents and purposes is smaller than Sacramento except by technicality.
We should leave it to the OP to clarify his/her qualification for population. Duluth MSA is about 270,000 people. If we are strictly talking city limits, I will concede. I do note that Minneapolis only has an official population of about 410,000 making it smaller than even Sacramento. No one is about to make the claim that Minneapolis for all intents and purposes is smaller than Sacramento except by technicality.
Every city has its unique features, e.g. Minneapolis has its twin St. Paul right next door; you don't know you're in a different city unless you see a sign or you know where the boundary changes. You can argue some of these till the cows come home. For example, I left off Salt Lake City b/c it doesn't have 200,000 people in its city limits though for all intents and purposes, it's a "large" city.
My point was more that there are not many large cities in the coldest areas of the US.
Respectfully disagree. I found December, January, and February to be harsh but still enough to do in terms of winter sports. We get enough snow for all of the good stuff you can do in the UP. The rest were decent with good amounts of snow up until late March for snow activities. April is the awkward month of Snud (Snow and Mud). The rest are pretty decent. There is plenty to do year round if you know how to dress.
Weather isn’t listed as a criteria probably because people have different preferences.
Yeah, I was going to include weather, but exactly--people have different preferences. Many incredible cities do have robust 4 seasons, so I feel like if a city hits all these marks, weather is manageable...
We should leave it to the OP to clarify his/her qualification for population. Duluth MSA is about 270,000 people. If we are strictly talking city limits, I will concede. I do note that Minneapolis only has an official population of about 410,000 making it smaller than even Sacramento. No one is about to make the claim that Minneapolis for all intents and purposes is smaller than Sacramento except by technicality.
I meant 200,000 city population only and greater, for this discussion. However, metros would be an interesting topic for another...
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