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And this is no bias, but I do believe that in time, DFW will pass up Chicagoland. My only question is, why does this matter?
LMAO. It does not matter but DFW could not pass up Chicagoland. The way the cities are ranked now is how they will stay. You can't expect a mass exodus out of every major metro (new york, la, chicago) all to Texas like some ignorant texas people believe. No one likes texas because they think its fun. Its just cheap to live there (as of now) trust me when it gets bigger it will be more expensive and it will loose population to a new upcoming area.
LMAO. It does not matter but DFW could not pass up Chicagoland. The way the cities are ranked now is how they will stay. You can't expect a mass exodus out of every major metro (new york, la, chicago) all to Texas like some ignorant texas people believe. No one likes texas because they think its fun. Its just cheap to live there (as of now) trust me when it gets bigger it will be more expensive and it will loose population to a new upcoming area.
Not going to happen
...let me guess, newcomer?
Yeah, first of all, never say never. For a long time people here in Texas didn't think that my hometown of Fort Worth wouldn't make it to 500,000 by 2000.
It was 534,694 by that time.
Some said it wouldn't hit 700,000 for 10 years after 2000..... it's now 702,850 as of this year (8 years after 2000). So things can change.
And second, enough with this. "No one likes texas because they think its fun. Its just cheap to live there (as of now) trust me when it gets bigger it will be more expensive and it will loose population to a new upcoming area." What, you have a crystal ball or something?
LMAO. It does not matter but DFW could not pass up Chicagoland. The way the cities are ranked now is how they will stay. You can't expect a mass exodus out of every major metro (new york, la, chicago) all to Texas like some ignorant texas people believe. No one likes texas because they think its fun. Its just cheap to live there (as of now) trust me when it gets bigger it will be more expensive and it will loose population to a new upcoming area.
Not going to happen
You are obviously the ignorant one, if you've looked at the population trends in the US. Things can change quicker then you think.
Its is quite obvious things can change, since your from (i'm guessing Chicago) you should be familiar with the Idea that it lose about 1 million people in about 40 years...From 1950 to 1990.
Pittsburgh lost 300,000 in 50 years... from 1950 to 2000
Philly lost half a million if 50 years....from 1950 to 2000 Los Angeles gain 3.5 Million in 100 year from 1900 to 2000; or if you prefer it broken down 1.2 Million in 30 year from 1900 to 1930, another 1.2 million in another 30 years from 1930 to 1960, 1 million in another 30 year from 1960 to 1990, and 400,000 in 18 years from 1990 to now... New York: Gained 1.3 MILLION IN 10 YEARS from 1920 to 1930 and gained in 100 years about 5 million people from 1900 to 2000.
Another example: Phoenix: in 50 year they gained 1.2 Million, from 1950 to 2000.
Whoops!... there goes your theory...
I could bombard you with more satistics but I'll stop here.
100 years is relatively short, and evem more so for 10-30 years.
Things can change, and if DFW continues growing the way it is, which unlike Los Angeles and New York have nothing stoping it from growing in any direction, it will surpass chicago as it is flirting with growing and shrinking.
Things can change, and your are the ignorant one for thinking thing will never change.
I'm not saying DFW will pass chicago, and I don't think it will in the next 20 years.
but i think the possibility is strong...but you go ahead and believe whatever you want...Ignorance is bliss.
But you're counting Dallas, Fort Worth, Arlington and other cities for DFW, but taking away San Jose and the South Bay for the San Fran area.
if you do apples to apples San Fran is still around 750,000 people larger than Dallas.
You're both right. He's coming from the MSA point of view. You're coming from the CSA point of view. Either way, neither of you are wrong. I will say that I expect DFW to pass San Francisco/Oakland/San Jose CSA sometime in the next day if the population trends continue for both areas. I think DFW CSA reaches 7 million sometime around 2012 or 2013.
You are obviously the ignorant one, if you've looked at the population trends in the US. Things can change quicker then you think.
Its is quite obvious things can change, since your from (i'm guessing Chicago) you should be familiar with the Idea that it lose about 1 million people in about 40 years...From 1950 to 1990.
You're talking about the 227 square miles of the official city of Chicago, which has shrunk by 750,000 since 1950.
We're talking the "city", which is the urban area/metro area. City limits mean a lot, but at the end of the day it's an arbitrary line around a section of an urban area. San Fran is only 49 square miles, Chicago is 227, Dallas is 385.
The urban area we call Chicago has grown by over 4 million people in that time.
In your example you're picking the period of time Chicago lost the most number of people, and comparing it to the other cities in the period of time they gained the most number of people. What about the 50 year time span Chicago gained 2 million people....
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I'm not picking on Chicago because they lost 1 Million in a few years.
My point was the Population can change rapidly.
Not that Chicago lost about 1 million, your interpreting my skepticism of the poster I was responding to for hated for Chicago.
Which is not the case.
I used a few year to abbreviate four decades, but four decades is nothing in the long run.
The actual figure I will admit, is about 850,000 From 1950 to 1990.
But none the less, that is not far from 1 million, and the drop in population was still great.
I used a few year to abbreviate four decades, but four decades is nothing in the long run.
The actual figure I will admit, is about 850,000 From 1950 to 1990.
But none the less, that is not far from 1 million, and the drop in population was still great.
Not at all. Chicago's metro is about to hit 10 million, the cities about to hit 3 million. As of now, Chicago and its metro combined have been larger than ever. People left the city for the suburbs. As of now, there seems to be a trend where people are moving back into the city, and immigrants are taking their places in the suburbs. Its all balancing out.
And trust me, if DFW where to become a metro of 10 million people, it would be A LOT more expensive to live in. It is basic economics, supply and demand. If you have a lot of people wanting to live in the same area, prices go up. You can see it now. A house in a suburb of Chicago is close to 400,000-500,000. A house in a suburb of DFW is around 200,000-300,000.
So, you can't call me ignorant when YOU think that prices won't go up for housing if more people move there.
You can't expect a mass exodus out of every major metro (new york, la, chicago) all to Texas like some ignorant texas people believe. No one likes texas because they think its fun. Its just cheap to live there (as of now) trust me when it gets bigger it will be more expensive and it will loose population to a new upcoming area.
Bracra1. I'm moving to DFW and certainly NOT because it's cheap. I really like the area. There are plenty of "cheap" cities, towns and even a few state that are relatively inexpensive, but I don't see many people flocking to these places? What's up with that?
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