What Cities Do You Think Will Pass One Million (City Limits) (neighborhoods, income)
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Omaha and Fort Worth are the type of cities and annex agressively. Omaha will hit 1 million in 40 years if I had to guess, Fort Worth in 25.
I agree about Omaha.
There are already 70,000 people in Douglas county that do not live within city limits and can be annexed by Omaha whenever it sees fit to do so. And with an 8.6% population growth rate and Omaha taking up less than half the county at this time (and no municipalities large enough to avoid such annexation as per state law in Nebraska regarding the city of Omaha and it's ability to subsume these entities though not outside county lines) it is very likely that the city proper will see substantial growth.
Well city limit boundaries don't tell the whole story of population but they do help for growth. For instance no suburb of Chicago WANTS to be part of Chicago.
Because independent cities grew up around Chicago they blocked its growth.
But boundaries also are helpful for projection because behind those limits are things like zoning laws, regulations, city councils, mass transit etc.
Even in Chicago you find areas of extreme high density (10,000/sq mile) and wide open spaces of nothing. Same for LA, which is large but has mountainous areas.
Population density is only an adequate comparison if use cities of similar size.
But I was just asking the question as I know as cities grow they often become less atttractive, Detroit, Cleveland and Baltimore all were big cities with smaller areas and bled because of the white flight of the 50s and 60s. These communities won't regain those lossses as people do not want to live in high density places by enlarge.
Even in Manhattan we find an outstanding 35% of condo sales are to part time foreign owners. Home sales in Florida to foreigners account for about 20%. So you can see the sales of homes often have little to do with potential growth.
Eventually the cities will peak. Like I can't see Indianapolis ever getting much bigger than it is now. The suburbs will grow but within the city limit the population will stabalize.
San Fran is a great example of a small city that COULD grow but is hemmed in by rent control and refusal to issue building permits.
This is one thing that Omaha really has going for it. The city is spending millions of dollars going neighborhood to neighborhood in an effort to revitalize older areas. Row houses and condos are springing up in places that once were warehouse districts and parking lots.
The zoning laws in Omaha also aim to reduce sprawl by making land cheaper and issuing permits and tax breaks in parts of the city that are not growing as fast as others.
Because state law allows Omaha to annex any municipality under 10,000 people (the largest is no where near that mark) and any unincorporated area within Douglas county, this allows Omaha to expand it's area by nearly 220 square miles (Omaha is now 118.9) which it does incrementally as it becomes reasonable to do so. This effectively limits suburbs to counties adjacent to Douglas and gives Omaha large amounts of expanding power.
Omaha has the luxury of seeing how other larger and older cities/metro areas grew and is doing what it can to preserve itself. This much to the chagrin of places like the city of Elkhorn, Nebraska, now the neighborhood of Elkhorn in the city of Omaha, Nebraska.
These things help to keep Omaha growing and not just it's suburbs. For the last couple of decades Omaha has grown in pace with it's suburban areas keeping it at approximately half the population growth within the greater metro area. Not many places have that luxury.
With projected population growth of the metro area and current patterns of geographic expansion, it's likely this trend will continue.
Austin probably won't annex. But it is not that dense.
But I agree 100% with JoeP. City Populations are very useless and I'm glad people on this board have noticed this.
But I agree 100% with JoeP. City Populations are very useless and I'm glad people on this board have noticed this.
This is true in general, but I think the OP was looking at how issues affect a metro area as it relates to itself, not how metro areas compare to each other.
When I'm mayor---SCRANTON! We peaked at 145,000, and God willing we'll hit 1,000,000 by the time I die. I've already lured several families into the city limits. Any other takers?
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When I'm mayor---SCRANTON! We peaked at 145,000, and God willing we'll hit 1,000,000 by the time I die. I've already lured several families into the city limits. Any other takers?
When I'm mayor---SCRANTON! We peaked at 145,000, and God willing we'll hit 1,000,000 by the time I die. I've already lured several families into the city limits. Any other takers?
I swear I would consider it SWB - as it sounds *somewhat* similar to the Quad Cities of Iowa when you take out the growth factor.
However, I've set tight restrictions/guidelines for myself -
As of right now, I've told myself never to live East of the Mississippi, but never live West of the Rockies. Never live directly south of IA, and never live anywhere North of the Des Moines/Ames metro via latitude. Unfortunately, Scranton just doesn't fit into that little tube shape on the map somehow.
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We peaked at 145,000, and God willing we'll hit 1,000,000 by the time I die. I've already lured several families into the city limits. Any other takers? 
