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Weird, that a state with only 45 miles of Lake Michigan shoreline, is considered a Great Lakes state.
When those 45 miles contain the second most heavily populated and prosperous area of the state, and it’s part of the third largest metropolitan area in the country? Yes, I would consider it a Great Lakes state.
The highest land values in Indiana are by far in Dune Acres, Ogden Dunes, and Beverly Shores, all on the Lake.
When the second highest concentration of population in the state is centered around those 45 miles, and it’s part of the third largest metropolitan area in the state? Yes, I would consider it a Great Lakes state.
Indiana? OK, then. I would consider Illinois that, because of Chicago, being completely on Lake Michigan. Indiana's shoreline just seems so small, and sparsely populated. There is no urban center on the Lake, but that doesn't matter...it's just not very long.
Indiana? OK, then. I would consider Illinois that, because of Chicago, being completely on Lake Michigan. Indiana's shoreline just seems so small, and sparsely populated. There is no urban center on the Lake, but that doesn't matter...it's just not very long.
Yeah, both Indiana and Illinois have huge populations concentrated near the lakeshore. Northwest Indiana is not sparsely populated. There are over 800k people near the lake, which is a lot in a state of 6.6 million.
Yeah, both Indiana and Illinois have huge populations concentrated near the lakeshore. Northwest Indiana is not sparsely populated. There are over 800k people near the lake, which is a lot in a state of 6.6 million.
I guess near the lake, rather than on it, must count, too.
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Indiana? OK, then. I would consider Illinois that, because of Chicago, being completely on Lake Michigan. Indiana's shoreline just seems so small, and sparsely populated. There is no urban center on the Lake, but that doesn't matter...it's just not very long.
Gary isn't an urban center?
I mean, I know it's small potatoes to Chicago but... so is Erie, and Cleveland, and Buffalo.
I mean, I know it's small potatoes to Chicago but... so is Erie, and Cleveland, and Buffalo.
Gary isn't even 100,000. But, if you say so. I don't really need to argue this, it's just that I think Indiana doesn't have much shore/coast, which it doesn't. That's all.
Indiana? OK, then. I would consider Illinois that, because of Chicago, being completely on Lake Michigan. Indiana's shoreline just seems so small, and sparsely populated. There is no urban center on the Lake, but that doesn't matter...it's just not very long.
Hey now! Size doesn't matter! Its about the motion of the oce....errrr.. lake!
I guess near the lake, rather than on it, must count, too.
You still don’t seem to get it. The whole area developed around the lake. Gary, Hammond and Michigan City were, and are, all major areas of industry, due to the lake; specifically, the steel mills along the lake. The suburbs and exurbs that grew around it grew because of that. Sure, much of the lakeshore is now protected parkland, as it should be, but the reason why NWI is so heavily populated is assuredly due to the lakeshore.
Those 45 miles of shoreline count way more in Indiana’s history and culture than you are giving it credit for.
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Gary isn't even 100,000. But, if you say so. I don't really need to argue this, it's just that I think Indiana doesn't have much shore/coast, which it doesn't. That's all.
Is it really that small?
Around 80,000, I'll be dipped. That still puts it above Corning or Ithaca, NY. Which around here we do consider the urban centers. :P
Born in Ohio, of a Cincy Mom and Pittsburgh Dad... 3 years as a toddler in Minnesota, grew up in Chicago, college in Wisconsin, lived in Iowa, currently live in Indiana, and visit family in Detroit Michigan often.
I am actually the closest thing you will ever meet to a Midwest Nationalist. **** the coasts...we would make an awesome North American non-aligned Switzerland. Best soil on the planet, the most freshwater on the planet. Easily demarcated borders with the Great Lakes, Ohio River, and Missouri River...sorry southern Missouri, Kansas, and Nebraska...you don't quite make the geographic cut....maybe we could make arrangements. Best people on the planet IMHO are found in the Midwest...smart kind generous unpretentious hard-working independent positive tuff
I feel a very strong affinity for the region obviously, and although I've lived in 8 other countries and a few places outside the region in the US (Boston, upstate NY, Philly, disliked all three..not a fan of the East Coast in general...bunch of sourpusses) I'd never willingly live outside the Midwest again within the US. Other countries, sure.
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