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Several public schools in California have tried to ban the American flag during Cinco de Mayo because the Mexican students were offended, even those these Mexicans live in the U.S. and are SUPPOEDLY U.S. citizens! But they're obviously more loyal to Mexico.
One of the campuses in the University of California system also took away the American flag from the student union because immigrant students were offended, because seeing it was "triggering" for some Dreamers! (it wasn't actual international students who were offended by it, an American wouldn't go study abroad in Italy and demand that their campus remove the Italian flag).
Oh yes, and remember how liberal Hollywood purposely left out Neil Armstrong placing the American flag on the moon in the First Man movie because they wanted it to be about "all mankind" and not America?????? Me and most people I know in South Louisiana and West Virginia are VERY patriotic and pro-American and we don't believe in this one world, globalist, no countries John Lennon type bull crap. We are Southerners and Americans first and will always side with America against any foreign nation and believe in putting American citizens first. I myself and the son of LEGAL immigrants from Asia and I and my family believe this.
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Again, even outside the South, the rebel flag can simply represent a rural lifestyle, pride in being from a small town, or supporting states rights against the federal government. Many people on the Midwest also feel the federal government is forcing gun control, Obamacare and abortion on them against their will and the federal government is the one that sacrificed many American jobs in the Rust Belt for geopolitical reasons. Being against the federal governmetn doesn't make you anti-American. For example is it anti-American to be angry about how the Clinton administration burned those children alive in Waco? Or be angry about how FEMA handled Katrina and the 2016 Louisiana floods and how the government is responsible for the flooding in Katrina? Or how the government launched the war on coal and put tens of thousands in Appalachia out of work?
The trouble with coal is that it does need to end, but the government shouldn't just kill the industry without making sure something takes its place in the local economies.
But as long as politicians have their five McMansions, each in a different state, and two yachts, who cares amirite? HAHAHAHA! *wine-glass tink and the sound of reserved wasp laughter*
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There's no "anti-American" "pro-Confederate" sentiment. I'm from Louisiana and have also lived in West Virginia (in the culturally southern part). There is a clear anti-federal government sentiment both in South Louisiana and southern WV but its not "anti-American". Being against the federal government doesnt make you anti-American.
There's a parallel to the Civil War in that we still suffer from government overreach and there's still the sense that states rights aren't respected, such as the federal level forcing Obamacare, abortion, gay marriage, and economic overregulation on us. In West Virginia there's a LOT of resentment and anger over the War on Coal during the Obama era that has destroyed the livelihoods of entire communities. In Louisiana there's a lot of anger about how FEMA screwed over many people during the 2016 Baton Rouge area floods and during Hurricane Katrina. There's also how the flooding during Katrina happened because of the government in the first place because they're the ones who constructed the levees in such a manner and also failed to maintain them.
Many areas that are "flood areas" now were not flood areas in the 1800s and only became so because of how and where the government built levees in order to protect northern, upriver states. I have MANY friends who were screwed over by FEMA in 2016. Also FEMA failed to help a lot of businesses recover. It seems like though that members of Obama's base and illegal aliens were able to benefit from the disasters and get completely new, larger homes rebuilt and be able to be relocated out of the ghetto, but most middle class people were completly screwed over by FEMA.
Please show me instances of the government forcing abortion on anyone. Show me an instance where a woman was forced to have an abortion by the government. And no, allowing women the freedom to have an abortion is not forcing anyone. If anything its the opposite of "force" its literal "freedom."
And please, please do enlighten me on how two consenting adults choosing to get married, even if they are the same sex, interferes in your life, or in the lives of anyone else?
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Pro-Confederate sentiment, in a literal sense, cannot be anything but anti-American.. You cannot be pro-Confederacy and pro-America, because the objective of the Confederacy was to break America apart..
Lammius, I disagree with your evaluation. I think the Confederacy was opposed to Federal tyranny, not opposed to America's values or existence. If you asked the Confederates, they believed they were fighting to preserve America, not destroy it. In their eyes, it was Northern Republicans (& their provincial policies) who were fracturing America. But it's all subjective, & you're correct that Confederates no longer saw themselves as 'United' states, but they still used 'America' in their name. Peace.
Please show me instances of the government forcing abortion on anyone. Show me an instance where a woman was forced to have an abortion by the government. And no, allowing women the freedom to have an abortion is not forcing anyone. If anything its the opposite of "force" its literal "freedom."
And please, please do enlighten me on how two consenting adults choosing to get married, even if they are the same sex, interferes in your life, or in the lives of anyone else?
The federal government is forcing states like Louisiana where most people are pro-life to accept legalized abortion. If it wasn't for Roe vs Wade on the federal level, abortion would most likely be completely illegal in this state. Same with West Virginia as well. And it was the former Supreme Court, stacked by Obama with liberal judges, that legalized gay marriage nationwide. Gay marriage was illegal in both Louisiana and West Virginia before that. (New Orleans is only one small corner of LA.) You talk to the average person here, we wish abortion was illegal, that marriage was limited to one man and one woman, that the war on coal was ended, and that Obamacare is ended. There would also be no DACA if we had our way. Illegals don't just go to liberal northern states, they also come here and cause us many problems.
Then there's the issue of liberals sending our jobs overseas for geopolitical purposes or giving them to illegal aliens and allowing illegals here.
Conservatives states don't go to California and tell them they can't have gay marriage, that they can't fund Planned Parenthood. Both during the Civil War and now, its about the federal government dominated by northern liberal states forcing their views and their economic policies on the rest of the nation . And yes overtaxation and trade policy was a MAJOR factor in the Civil War but of course the liberal history books won't tell you that .
And the war on coal is another example overreach by a federal government run by liberal Northeast and West Coast states. Every community needs to decide on its OWN trade off between jobs and environment, not some Starbucks sipping federal bureaucrats in Washington DC. Not every area is like the liberal bubble of Silicon Valley where there's only research and high-tech jobs and no heavy industry. Other communities need to make a trade off and those decisions should be made on the local level.
If West Virginia, Kentucky, and Tennessee residents are okay with coal mining and natural gas drilling and using coal-fired power plants, the federal government has no business telling them they can't do that.
The federal government is forcing states like Louisiana where most people are pro-life to accept legalized abortion. If it wasn't for Roe vs Wade on the federal level, abortion would most likely be completely illegal in this state. Same with West Virginia as well. And it was the former Supreme Court, stacked by Obama with liberal judges, that legalized gay marriage nationwide. Gay marriage was illegal in both Louisiana and West Virginia before that. (New Orleans is only one small corner of LA.) You talk to the average person here, we wish abortion was illegal, that marriage was limited to one man and one woman, that the war on coal was ended, and that Obamacare is ended. There would also be no DACA if we had our way. Illegals don't just go to liberal northern states, they also come here and cause us many problems.
Then there's the issue of liberals sending our jobs overseas for geopolitical purposes or giving them to illegal aliens and allowing illegals here.
Conservatives states don't go to California and tell them they can't have gay marriage, that they can't fund Planned Parenthood. Both during the Civil War and now, its about the federal government dominated by northern liberal states forcing their views and their economic policies on the rest of the nation . And yes overtaxation and trade policy was a MAJOR factor in the Civil War but of course the liberal history books won't tell you that .
The average person doesn't care. People are too self absorbed these days to worry about gay marriage or abortion. Yes, New Orleans is a small portion of LA. In land that may be true, population not so much.
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