It's here! OMB releases new Bulletin No. 18-04, Revised MSA/CSA Delineations

[rnc2mbfl]

Originally Posted by murksiderock

Obvious CSA definitions aside, there are various other ways the two are linked. Williamsburg and its amenities, including and maybe especially William&Mary, is more connected to Richmond than it is to the Southside of Hampton Roads...

In a similar way, there's a continuous stretch of communities from Winston-Salem to Raleigh in NC. The daisy chain basically goes from west to east like this: Winston-Salem/Greensboro/Burlington/Durham/Raleigh with many more municipalities scattered among them. At points along that chain, smaller communities like Kernersville & Hillsborough connect them even further with commuters going both east and west. In fact, many people settle in these connecting places because one breadwinner in a household commutes east while the other goes west. However, this dynamic doesn't reasonably make the daisy chain one CSA from W-S to Raleigh.
On an expanded scale, one can argue that the chain heads south from Raleigh to Fayetteville, and southwest of W-S to Charlotte.

[manitopiaaa]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

What I heard back when the Trenton MSA was moved from the Philadelphia CSA to the New York CSA was that the move was made primarily to give Federal employees in Mercer County a pay raise (the New York CSA's COL adjustment is higher than the one for Philadelphia).

I suspect that core-county commute patterns are such that it could still be placed in either.

I doubt that. They don't always align. Windham County CT is in Boston's CSA but Feds there get paid Hartford salaries. York County joined the Harrisburg CSA but they still get paid Washington-Baltimore salaries.

[Gantz]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

1) Are Princeton (Borough and Township are now one municipality; the two merged in 2013) and West Windsor Township (where Princeton Junction rail station is located) receiving significantly more inflows of commuters from NY CSA counties than they had been? I'm pretty sure such outflows as exist from Mercer County head more towards Bucks County, Pa., than towards Middlesex County, N.J. (Princeton itself is what it is now because it is located exactly halfway between New York and Philadelphia.)

I remember we had an argument about Mercer back when 2010 census figures/2013 CSA definitions came out. As far as I remember, New York gets double the commuters compared to Philly, surprisingly the numbers weren't even close. My guess is that people around Princeton are, on average, a lot more mobile compared to people who live in Trenton.

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by Gantz

I remember we had an argument about Mercer back when 2010 census figures/2013 CSA definitions came out. As far as I remember, New York gets double the commuters compared to Philly, surprisingly the numbers weren't even close. My guess is that people around Princeton are, on average, a lot more mobile compared to people who live in Trenton.

they are higher into the NYC MSA


a couple of things impacted the commuter movement


The Fairless steel works facility closed at the end of the 90s/early 2000s which impacted about 12K commuters into buck county from peak.


Also the Merrill Lynch facility originally going two miles into PA in Buck was moved across the river into Mercer county 4 miles away and their 14K employees


little movements and a few miles move stuff in and out for stats


today actually more people from Bucks PA and Burlington NJ commute into jobs in Mercer than the other way