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I most certainly think that Virginia is overall a Southern state, as most of Virginia geographically is culturally Southern. However, NoVa is a distinct outlier, and often doesn't identify with Virginia or the rest of the South. And no doubt there are areas of Maryland that are more culturally Southern, and perhaps I might could've included them (next map iteration?), but overall Maryland is a Mid-Atlantic state. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most Marylanders don't identify with the South, similar to most people from NoVa.
Miami has a lower percentage of Puerto Ricans than most Major Northern cities, aside from that fact, Miami is located in the south; it's the geographically the southern most Major city in the contiguous 48 states. Is Miami no longer southern all of a sudden?
We've clearly stated we're talking about South as in "culturally" specifically. The OP even came back to note he meant culturally so which is it for you? Geographically, yes Miami is Southern... culturally, well I dont know Miami too well but I could see the arguement on why its distant from what's considered "Southern".
We've clearly stated we're talking about South as in "culturally" specifically. The OP even came back to note he meant culturally so which is it for you? Geographically, yes Miami is Southern... culturally, well I dont know Miami too well but I could see the arguement on why its distant from what's considered "Southern".
Miamians of all races/ethnicites will tell you that they are southern. Miami being a southern city is widely acknowledged. It's distant from what YOUR narrow definition of southern is, but that doesn't make Miami any less southern just as NYC being hyper diverse doesn't make it less northern.
Miamians of all races/ethnicites will tell you that they are southern. Miami being a southern city is widely acknowledged. It's distant from what YOUR narrow definition of southern is, but that doesn't make Miami any less southern just as NYC being hyper diverse doesn't make it less northern.
And like everyone agreed the map is pretty OK without MD/DC included. And well, if JMatl is you're leaning figure then that's just sad but to each his own.
I lived in DC for close to three years. There's nothing really southern about it, I mean yeah, there are people from the south that live there, but even those people told me that there's nothing southern about DC. Now Virginia to me, outside of NOVA, that's the south.
I lived in DC for close to three years. There's nothing really southern about it, I mean yeah, there are people from the south that live there, but even those people told me that there's nothing southern about DC. Now Virginia to me, outside of NOVA, that's the south.
Yup.. just like the op's map showed. I agree, there is a noticeable difference as you go South of here. I was in Richmond this weekend and it's not uncommon to hear a Southern light accent here and there from the local residents and in DC you'll only here it from someone that moved there from the South.
I lived in DC for close to three years. There's nothing really southern about it, I mean yeah, there are people from the south that live there, but even those people told me that there's nothing southern about DC. Now Virginia to me, outside of NOVA, that's the south.
Yep. I don’t have a problem with the south but it’s intellectually dishonest to say NoVa is the south. Now Virginia as a whole is a different story imo.
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