
04-12-2019, 10:42 AM
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With the Gold Line (light rail) extension being complete from Downtown LA to Montclair, California, the two separate MSA’s will be merged once again for the first time since the 1940s.
The census will officially recognize San Bernardino and Riverside counties as commuter suburbs of LA therefore being included to the new LA MSA count. That’s nearly twice the size of Chicagoland. Watch out North America, LA is coming to dethrone Mexico City and New York City for the largest mega city of the continent.
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04-12-2019, 10:45 AM
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Location: NNV
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Originally Posted by Bodybuilder96
With the Gold Line (light rail) extension being complete from Downtown LA to Montclair, California, the two separate MSA’s will be merged once again for the first time since the 1940s.
The census will officially recognize San Bernardino and Riverside counties as commuter suburbs of LA therefore being included to the new LA MSA count. That’s nearly twice the size of Chicagoland. Watch out North America, LA is coming to dethrone Mexico City and New York City for the largest mega city of the continent.
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Please provide a link to your reference that the MSAs will be combined.
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04-12-2019, 10:48 AM
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I never thought of the IE as a stand alone metro anyway. I don't see it as anything but a spillover of LA.
I would go as far as saying I see it more as one metro than DFW. Although DFW is more unified, both Dallas and FW are stand alone cities while the IE is LA burbs
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04-12-2019, 10:50 AM
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Location: Louisville
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Originally Posted by atadytic19
I never thought of the IE as a stand alone metro anyway. I don't see it as anything but a spillover of LA.
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Agreed. The IE is a fraud as a standalone metro.
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04-12-2019, 10:52 AM
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Location: Baltimore
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What is the 'Global Census'? And why is it looking at San Bernardino?
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04-12-2019, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade
What is the 'Global Census'? And why is it looking at San Bernardino?
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The same organization that ranks “Alpha cities” and “Gamma Cities” and ohh! Can’t forget about “Alpha ++” because it makes a difference
Sarcasm for poking fun at who cares what some unknown organization has to say about their unwanted opinions.
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04-12-2019, 10:58 AM
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Not saying they should have ever been split - but what does a light rail line have to do with any of this and what is a "global census"??
Light rail has nothing at all to do with census designation of metro areas.
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04-12-2019, 11:47 AM
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Location: San Diego, CA
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If you look at the MSA of New York City then the Inland Empire should be part of Los Angeles’s. There’s countless cities/towns within Metro NYC that are much further out than San Bernardino, and unlike LA to San Bernardino, they’re separated by huge swaths of rural land. Maybe the IE is it’s own MSA because it can standalone greater than the exurbs of NYC can?
I was floored when I was visiting various members of my wife’s family that were all within the MSA of NYC, even though we drove through miles of nothing and are 2 hours from the city. If Poughkeepsie is part of NYC’s MSA, then Riverside should easily be part of LA’s, but I don’t think either should be, just my opinion.
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04-12-2019, 11:58 AM
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Location: Louisville
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Originally Posted by TacoSoup
I was floored when I was visiting various members of my wife’s family that were all within the MSA of NYC, even though we drove through miles of nothing and are 2 hours from the city. If Poughkeepsie is part of NYC’s MSA, then Riverside should easily be part of LA’s, but I don’t think either should be, just my opinion.
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I think the difference there is that there is physical suburban and rural separation between Poughkeepsie and NYC. Not only is there no suburban separation between Riverside and LA, the current built environment and population of the IE is directly because of LA. Riverside is almost 30 miles closer to LA than Poughkeepsie is to New York.
Riverside and San Bernadino are barely even satellites of LA. They developed in their current forms as suburbs. They only became statistically separate after the IE became cheaper to build offices/warehouses ect. and developed enough of it's own commuter base to dilute greater commuting statistics. This again is overflow.
Riverside is an MSA on paper due to loopholes in how statistics are interpreted. It possesses no other qualities of a 4 million person metro. Any amenities it has therein are attributed directly to it's being a part of a greater 20 million person region.
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04-12-2019, 01:12 PM
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Boundary changes, don't change real numbers. LA will only grow on paper.
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