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Old 09-17-2020, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Disagree about Texas. Well I should say the majority of Texas have four seasons.
Texas doesn't have four well defined seasons at all in my book, just extreme weather changes. The low latitude and lack of significant change in daylight between summer and winter means less seasonal changes as well.
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Old 09-17-2020, 04:00 PM
 
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There are also plenty of places in high altitude subalpine/alpine mountains that can freeze any time of the year and don't have four seasons either.
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Old 09-17-2020, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Texas doesn't have four well defined seasons at all in my book, just extreme weather changes. The low latitude and lack of significant change in daylight between summer and winter means less seasonal changes as well.
That’s why I said majority. If you said Houston and Southeast Texas, South Texas, and West Texas, sure. But Northeast Texas, DFW and North Texas, and especially the panhandle with an honorable mention to central Texas does indeed experience four seasons at least to me. Now some seasons may be shorter but they do happen.
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Old 09-18-2020, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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That’s why I said majority. If you said Houston and Southeast Texas, South Texas, and West Texas, sure. But Northeast Texas, DFW and North Texas, and especially the panhandle with an honorable mention to central Texas does indeed experience four seasons at least to me. Now some seasons may be shorter but they do happen.
If the winter season is defined as commonly having high temperatures in the 50's and 60's it doesn't really count as four seasons. It can get colder than that there in the winter, but not consistently at all.
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:07 PM
 
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Old 09-24-2020, 08:19 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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The low latitude and lack of significant change in daylight between summer and winter means less seasonal changes as well.
The Texas Triangle is in the center of the Central Time Zone, so sunrises and sunsets don't come earlier or later than places near the time zone boundaries.

There still is a significant change in daylight between summer and winter--here in Houston, the sun will set 8:30 pm DST (7:30 ST) in mid-Summer and at 5:30 pm ST (6:30 DST) in mid-Winter. This is a two hour time difference! It doesn't take into account the dusk mid-winter gloom that sets in at 3:00 pm as it gets closer to sunset.

The reverse is true at sunrise. Mid-Winter sunrise is at 7:30 am and the gloom ends when the midday light starts at 10:00 am. The midday light is only about 4-5 hours.

In Chicago, the day length is somewhat skewed being on the eastern edge of the Central Time Zone. This time shifts the day to start and end earlier. The high latitude already gives it a disadvantage of extra-shorter days and longer nights.

The only advantage with the low latitude is that the sunshine still gives Vitamin D during winter, instead of light being reflected by the curvature of the Earth. The happiest time in Houston is usually on a cool (or cold 40s-50s by Houston standards), cloudless sunny winter day.
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Old 09-25-2020, 07:50 AM
 
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The Texas Triangle is in the center of the Central Time Zone, so sunrises and sunsets don't come earlier or later than places near the time zone boundaries.

There still is a significant change in daylight between summer and winter--here in Houston, the sun will set 8:30 pm DST (7:30 ST) in mid-Summer and at 5:30 pm ST (6:30 DST) in mid-Winter. This is a two hour time difference! It doesn't take into account the dusk mid-winter gloom that sets in at 3:00 pm as it gets closer to sunset.

The reverse is true at sunrise. Mid-Winter sunrise is at 7:30 am and the gloom ends when the midday light starts at 10:00 am. The midday light is only about 4-5 hours.

In Chicago, the day length is somewhat skewed being on the eastern edge of the Central Time Zone. This time shifts the day to start and end earlier. The high latitude already gives it a disadvantage of extra-shorter days and longer nights.

The only advantage with the low latitude is that the sunshine still gives Vitamin D during winter, instead of light being reflected by the curvature of the Earth. The happiest time in Houston is usually on a cool (or cold 40s-50s by Houston standards), cloudless sunny winter day.
A two hour differential between summer and winter is next to nothing, it must be very normal if you have only lived in low latitude locations. And no, I don't consider Chicago to be remotely higher latitude at all, not compared to most of Europe or Canada. Vitamin D makes no difference to me as I take supplements most of the year as I'm inside working in an office. Low sun angle light is what I definitely prefer, but I like actual winter weather unlike most Americans.
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Old 10-02-2020, 06:43 AM
 
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Besides the south, what are the states that don't have four distinct seasons?
Hawaii, and that's it. Maybe Oklahoma, but even Oklahoma has the panhandle, which actually gets quite a bit of snow.

Every other state is either far North enough or has high elevation areas with lots of snow.
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Old 10-02-2020, 11:43 AM
 
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Yes, pretty much above Macon. Of course, it's not a hard line. Freak events can and do occur down into North Florida, but it's rare.
According to Wikipedia, locations in the panhandle may receive snow every 3 years.
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Old 10-02-2020, 06:54 PM
 
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Also according to wikipedia, Columbus GA repsesents the Winter Snow Line in the south. It is also pretty much on the fall line, so that could be the southern limit of four seasons depending on definition (some definitions push this southern limit into the Florida panhandle).
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