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Truthfully, almost no city has a hip or edgy suburb. Areas that might have been considered hip or edgy 10 years ago are basic yuppie, now. Hipsters aren’t really a thing anymore. Sure, there are pockets of artists and bohemians, but, they tend to be in rundown, semi industrial areas and of major cities, not in the desirable satellite cities.
Oakland is legitimately hip, but only on C – D is it considered a San Francisco suburb.
Agree that hipster culture is no longer actually a thing. A lot of trappings of hipsterism have been appropriated into mainstream culture at this point, but I've noticed in real life outside this forum, pretty much anything attempting to be trendy or yuppie is accused of being hipster. Meanwhile, Brooklyn has turned into just another yuppie paradise.
Agree that hipster culture is no longer actually a thing. A lot of trappings of hipsterism have been appropriated into mainstream culture at this point
Does this mean "when older dudes start wearing hideous looking beards, stupid looking glasses and skinny jeans?"
Does this mean "when older dudes start wearing hideous looking beards, stupid looking glasses and skinny jeans?"
Yes I think this is generally the benchmark. By the time this happens the middle class kids that are angry at their parents have moved on to other ways to express how individual they are.
Yes I think this is generally the benchmark. By the time this happens the middle class kids that are angry at their parents have moved on to other ways to express how individual they are.
Hipsterism was never really the "young person rebellion" thing like a teen deciding they were a goth or a punk or a hippie though. The hallmark of it is how much lack of self-reflection there was. People just happened to pick up interests from their friends which were derided as being hipster. Ironically, none of those people ever self-identified as being hipsters, and made fun of other people, that they didn't know, as being hipsters instead.
Hipsterism was never really the "young person rebellion" thing like a teen deciding they were a goth or a punk or a hippie though. The hallmark of it is how much lack of self-reflection there was. People just happened to pick up interests from their friends which were derided as being hipster. Ironically, none of those people ever self-identified as being hipsters, and made fun of other people, that they didn't know, as being hipsters instead.
Those were never the people who represented the hipster movement. By the time it became part of the mainstream vernacular the people who were authentic predated those who were looking for a scene. The free spirits always come before the plagiarizers. As is the case with most movements, it's not the trend setters we remember it's the posers.
Even still, most of those aren’t hip. I’ve never been to Long Beach, so I’m going to leave that what are the discussion, but Jersey City, Hoboken and Miami Beach are definitely not hip. Hoboken and JC are desirable to millennial yuppies. Miami Beach comes the closest to being hip, but it’s more glitzy than cool.
Have you ever been to JC or Hoboken?
For LBC, yes, it is. Belmont Shore has a lot of fun bars and restaurants and shops. The areas on Broadway and 4th east of Downtown LBC have a lot of cool establishments. LBC has its own Gay Pride Parade and celebrations.
Jersey City gets a lot of businesses looking to expand beyond Manhattan. The food scene in JC is great. There are very few large chain restaurants. A night out in JC will show the more hipster/trendy side of things. Basically every bar/restaurants in downtown is so gay-friendly that for the longest time there was only one gay bar in town. Recently a new underground gay club opened. Rooftops bars are opening up in downtown. Lots of the restaurants have speakeasy bars/clubs underneath them. A lot of the Brooklyn crowd looking to own has moved to JC. I know tons of people in JC who couldn't afford to buy in Brooklyn and they found that similar vibe in JC for cheaper. Yes, parts of Brooklyn are beyond gentrified, but these are the type of people who had been renting in Brooklyn for like 10-15 years.
Hoboken is not the same style. It's more that "white girl yoga" trendy in that way. Which, admittedly, is quite common in a lot of suburbs. I'd definitely give the nod more to JC for being trendy in the different way.
Jersey City gets a lot of businesses looking to expand beyond Manhattan. The food scene in JC is great. There are very few large chain restaurants. A night out in JC will show the more hipster/trendy side of things. Basically every bar/restaurants in downtown is so gay-friendly that for the longest time there was only one gay bar in town. Recently a new underground gay club opened. Rooftops bars are opening up in downtown. Lots of the restaurants have speakeasy bars/clubs underneath them. A lot of the Brooklyn crowd looking to own has moved to JC. I know tons of people in JC who couldn't afford to buy in Brooklyn and they found that similar vibe in JC for cheaper. Yes, parts of Brooklyn are beyond gentrified, but these are the type of people who had been renting in Brooklyn for like 10-15 years.
I think he's talking about trendy/cool in the sense of dirt-poor musicians, cheap dive bars, art galleries breaking unknown artists in, etc. Not people who are 35 who have a little bit of money but aren't rich. Williamsburg circa 2000.
I think he's talking about trendy/cool in the sense of dirt-poor musicians, cheap dive bars, art galleries breaking unknown artists in, etc. Not people who are 35 who have a little bit of money but aren't rich. Williamsburg circa 2000.
Correct, not places that are yuppiefied.
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