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Old 06-20-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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Currently in New Mexico where illegal immigration is quite rampant. There have been more than a handful of victims of crime/homicides here caused by illegals. My cousin, who is a police officer in the metro consistently encounters drivers without proper identification. Many get what's equivalent to a slap on the wrist.

I have a family. Safety is my top priority. We're planning a move in May and would like to find a place where laws are most respected and adhered to.
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Probably Louisiana.
Lax/few laws. but ENFORCED. Most violent state in the country. Highest incarceration rate.

Definitely not Massachusetts.
Tons of frivolous laws. Everything is LIGHTLY ENFORCED. Most violent state in Northeast, fastest growing illegal immigration population. Top 5 drug abuse. Lowest incarceration rate in the country.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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Definitely not Massachusetts.
Tons of frivolous laws. Everything is LIGHTLY ENFORCED. Most violent state in Northeast, fastest growing illegal immigration population. Top 5 drug abuse. Lowest incarceration rate in the country.

It depends on which laws. Massachusetts is among the lowest gun homicide rates in the country. Using a gun in a crime is an express ticket to jail. Getting caught with twigs & seeds isn't.
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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In my experience, Ohio, Iowa, Nebraska.

I do know Arizona takes illegal immigration very seriously, so I'd throw AZ in too. Utah has some crazy laws like beers can only be below 4% ABV, but on the whole the laws didn't seem insanely enforced when I was there.

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Old 06-20-2019, 09:29 PM
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My guesses on most strict police would be Virginia, Arkansas, Georgia, Oklahoma. Now you will have to determine if strictness=effectiveness. I would definitely add NYPD (effective) who have helped reduce crime rates across NYC over the years.

Somehow I feel like California police are strict (but downside is that there might be a lot of corruption in CA police forces). I have watched a lot of police videos, but otherwise these are total guesses!
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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It depends on which laws. Massachusetts is among the lowest gun homicide rates in the country. Using a gun in a crime is an express ticket to jail. Getting caught with twigs & seeds isn't.
Please tell us what State doesn't give out jail time if you use a gun in a crime?
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:25 PM
 
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It depends on which laws. Massachusetts is among the lowest gun homicide rates in the country. Using a gun in a crime is an express ticket to jail. Getting caught with twigs & seeds isn't.
People get out of jail all the time in Mass. It has a revolving door I just read about a dude getting caught on his fourth gun charge since 2002. Never forget when Angelo West in Boston shot a cop in the face during a routine traffic atopin 2016. He was in another police shooting in 2001.

Despite Mass have one of the lowest gun homicide crimes it has some of the highest levels of aggravated assault in the country and an violent crime that is 40-50% higher than its peers NJ CT RI. Boston’s had 7 people shot in the past 36 hours. No arrests have been made. Boston is also the city with the lowest black homicide clearance rate in the country. People are given lots of wiggle room in MA in general. I believe it’s one of the weakest states when it comes to executing/treating for outstanding warrants, but I can’t remember where I saw this.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:29 PM
 
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Please tell us what State doesn't give out jail time if you use a gun in a crime?
Thank you, and even still if I had to name a state it’s not Massachusetts. They don’t enforce their own state laws.
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Lowest incarceration rate in the country.
There are a lot of factors that play into this. The big one is that MA emphasizes avoiding prison sentences for drug use and mental illness more so than most other states. Huge percentages of most states' incarceration figures are from people imprisoned for possession or for people arrested during an acute episode of mental illness. MA leads the nation in diversion programs to keep those cases out of jail. Just do a quick google for civil commitments and sections in MA. In many states, those cases are in jail.

I don't disagree that for a so-called "nanny state," MA doesn't enforce a lot of the frivolous laws on the books. But it's also pretty tough in other areas. It's one of the more difficult states for gun owners. Most of those gun laws are pretty strongly enforced on a regular basis. I get what GeoffD is saying - you don't have to fire a gun to be arrested. MA is so restrictive on who can have a gun and where they can have it, that simply having your legally owned firearm locked under your seat in the wrong spot can lead to an arrest and significantly more severe charges in an otherwise benign scenario. It's not really taking a bold stance to say MA is one of the toughest places to own/possess a firearm. And one of the problems with having frivolous laws on the books and not enforcing them is it opens the door for selective enforcement which makes it even easier to profile/target certain individuals or groups.
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Old 06-28-2019, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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It depends on which laws. Massachusetts is among the lowest gun homicide rates in the country. Using a gun in a crime is an express ticket to jail. Getting caught with twigs & seeds isn't.
"Massachusetts may have the lowest firearm death rate in the U.S., but gun violence is the leading cause of death for those in Massachusetts between 17 and 24 years old."

55% of all victims of firearm-related injuries are between the ages of 15 and 24, and black youths in the same age range had 32 times the rate of firearm assault-related hospitalizations compared to white youths.

Read more: Firearm violence targeted - Lowell Sun Online

I just thought these were very shocking stats. For any state. 32 times higher gun violence amongst young blacks in MA than whites? I woulda thought 8-12 times. Wow..
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