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Black culture in Nyc is very different from elsewhere. One similarity NY and Boston have is that Black people in those cites are largely immigrant based.
I'm well aware of the Carribean community presence in NYC being about 120 years plus. I recently learned the history of harlem being 1/3 Carribean too ( this year at that). Definitely some mixing going on within both cultures history ( Ex: Biggie Smalls ethnicity, it was rather a surprise to me. Lead me to read more about the Carribean history additionally ).
I knew about the Aframs with northern roots from the colonial era but it's a numbers game. When your community grows from a small town size to a metropolis size with the main movers being from a major reason 99%, then you'll simply swallowed up. This is applied to all the Aframs communities with original roots outside the South.
Spot on about the Black experiences of Chi & NYC. It can't be helped to acknowledge that these are the only 2 cities in america to have a Black population over 1 million ( obviously not the case with Chi anymore). So why was Chicago not that appealing for thr 2nd or 3rd wave of Carribeans?
I think this comes down to geography. Meaning, Chicago's location within the country plays a part as to why not as many from the Caribbean went there versus places like NYC, Boston, Hartford, Miami and some others that are historical ports of entry into the country and that are in closer proximity.
255 town in Vermont
235 in New Hampshire
350 in Massachusetts
30 in Rhode Island
230 in Connecticut
425 in Maine
About 1 out of every 6 black people in New England lives in one town.
Boston.
16% of all black people in New England (6 states) live in Boston's 48 square miles (with the majority of that being in 12 square miles) .
There are about 970k black people in New England- here are the top 15 cities.
160k in Boston MA
45k In Hartford CT
45k in Bridgeport CT
40k in New Haven CT
40k in Brockton MA
30k in Springfield MA
30k in Providence RI
25k in Worcester MA
20k in Waterbury CT
18k in Stamford CT
15k in Randolph MA
13k in Hamden CT
13k in West Haven CT
13k in East Hartford CT
13k in Pawtucket RI
Total of 520k in 15 towns.
Honorable Mention: Bloomfield CT with 13k, Cambridge MA with 12k Lynn MA with 12k and Malden MA with 10k
53.6% of (520k out of 970k) blacks in New England live in less than 1% of its towns (15 out of 1,525). I'd wager that 10% or less of all New England Whites live in those towns. The largest concentrations are Boston and Worcester which combine for about 400k whites out of ~10,000,000 in New England.
If the Mid-Atlantic has segregation like that please let me know. It very well could with NYC distorting the numbers
Last edited by BostonBornMassMade; 08-21-2019 at 09:26 AM..
In my experience, the only state in the Northeast wherein it is common to encounter black people in suburban areas that are presumably majority-white is Maryland. For example, during a recent trip to Carroll County, MD, I observed many black people in shopping centers and on the roadways, despite the fact that only 3.2% of the county's resident population is black or African-American. You would probably never observe this in most of suburban Massachusetts or Pennsylvania.
In my experience, the only state in the Northeast wherein it is common to encounter black people in suburban areas that are presumably majority-white is Maryland. For example, during a recent trip to Carroll County, MD, I observed many black people in shopping centers and on the roadways, despite the fact that only 3.2% of the county's resident population is black or African-American. You would probably never observe this in most of suburban Massachusetts or Pennsylvania.
Really? I think this is more common than you may think, including both of those states.
In my experience, the only state in the Northeast wherein it is common to encounter black people in suburban areas that are presumably majority-white is Maryland. For example, during a recent trip to Carroll County, MD, I observed many black people in shopping centers and on the roadways, despite the fact that only 3.2% of the county's resident population is black or African-American. You would probably never observe this in most of suburban Massachusetts or Pennsylvania.
I agree with ckhthankgod.
I see lots of black people shopping in towns in MA that are 3% or less black-because thats where the good stores are and not just dollar stores/liquor stores/junk stores.
Walpole Braintree Norwood and Dedham MA all come to mind but then again they're all close to larger black population centers (Brockton, Randolph, Boston).
NJ and MD have the greatest concentration of black people living in areas that look wealthy and one would assume are 85%+ white. (e.g. Maplewood, NJ or Bowie, MD)
I think this comes down to geography. Meaning, Chicago's location within the country plays a part as to why not as many from the Caribbean went there versus places like NYC, Boston, Hartford, Miami and some others that are historical ports of entry into the country and that are in closer proximity.
Precisely. Your spot on that notion. This also goes back to Aframs being heavily geographic base too.
I see lots of black people shopping in towns in MA that are 3% or less black-because thats where the good stores are and not just dollar stores/liquor stores/junk stores.
Walpole Braintree Norwood and Dedham MA all come to mind but then again they're all close to larger black population centers (Brockton, Randolph, Boston).
NJ and MD have the greatest concentration of black people living in areas that look wealthy and one would assume are 85%+ white. (e.g. Maplewood, NJ or Bowie, MD)
NY has some areas like that say like the Nyacks in Rockland County and parts of Westchester and Orange counties and Long Island.
Shoot, even though I wouldn't necessarily say wealthy, Syracuse's outer East Side into DeWitt is a solidly middle class area that between the 2 zip codes(13224-East Side(about mid/high 30's%) and 13214-East Side/adjacent parts of DeWitt(around national black percentage) is about 25% black and has shopping here: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0456...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
So, this may be more common than we may realize too.
Last edited by ckhthankgod; 08-21-2019 at 09:38 AM..
255 town in Vermont
235 in New Hampshire
350 in Massachusetts
30 in Rhode Island
230 in Connecticut
425 in Maine
About 1 out of every 6 black people in New England lives in one town.
Boston.
16% of all black people new England (6 states) lives in Boston's 48 square miles (with he majority of that being in 12 square miles) .
There are about 970k black people in New England- here are the top 15 cities.
160k in Boston MA
45k In Hartford CT
45k in Bridgeport CT
40k in New Haven CT
40k in Brockton MA
30k in Springfield MA
30k in Providence RI
25k in Worcester MA
20k in Waterbury CT
18k in Stamford CT
15k in Randolph MA
13k in Hamden CT
13k in West Haven CT
13k in East Hartford CT
13k in Pawtucket RI
Total of 520k in 15 towns.
Honorable Mention: Bloomfield CT with 13k, Cambridge MA with 12k Lynn MA with 12k and Malden MA with 10k
53.6% of (520k out of 970k) blacks in New England live in less than 1% of its towns (15 out of 1,525). I'd wager that 10% or less of all New England Whites live in those towns. The largest concentrations are Boston and Worcester which combine for about 400k whites out of ~10,000,000 in New England.
If the Mid-Atlantic has segregation like that please let me know. It very well could with NYC distorting the numbers
You could apply this to all non southern sub regions of the country and have similar results.
You could apply this to all non southern sub regions of the country and have similar results.
With maybe KY and WV being the exceptions in the South.
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