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Originally Posted by TacoSoup
That third list is obviously taking into account airport traffic. Not sure how Chicago could be #9 for international visitors and #5 for domestic, but #2 overall. Atlanta is even worse when it’s not even in the top 10 for international visitors and #10 for domestic, but is #3 overall. I don’t put much stock in any of these lists though. It seems like you can find one out there to back up any point you’re trying to make.
As for the question it’s tough because you can pretty much avoid the hordes of tourists if you don’t live, work, or play in just a couple areas of the city.
I thought Los Angeles might be the best answer because it has the most attractions spread over a larger area so you’re dealing with them everywhere, but conversely they’ll blend into the masses easier than when they're concentrated into a few specific spots.
I went with Honolulu because I’ve been there in all the seasons and you can’t tell the difference in the number of tourists everywhere (summer is worse), plus most standout like a sore thumb. While there’s plenty of areas of Oahu that are untouched with few tourists, it’s still a small island and it’s hard to avoid them with the exception of these spots and residential areas.
Right up there has to be Orlando. I was there in the summer once and I couldn’t fathom why anyone would choose to go there then with the weather, but it’s obvious because that’s when people take their vacations. I don’t know what it’s like in the winter.
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I was different links used also.
It should be noted too. Most links us stats furnished by cities. Some use whole city metros and multi-counties too and some just city-proper's alone. Some city's stats count day-trippers, some do not.
My state alone is one that requires metro stats counted. When I came across thus link on Philly's stats n tourism #'s. It gave insight in how city counts can differ and my state. Smaller city-proper's, mat tend to count metros.
This is the link on Philly that gave how its numbers are metro and how some do not count day-trippers like DC. It's from 2019 using 2015 stats.
https://billypenn.com/2016/11/09/her...urists-we-get/
Example from the link:
- Why does Visit Philly focus and promote Greater Philadelphia rather than the city of Philadelphia? It’s actually state law, according to the group.
- Take New York City for example. NYC & Company counts overnight visitors and day-trippers, too, using the same 50-mile or farther metric for daytime guests, but keeps its data to the five boroughs. In 2015, its total for domestic visitors was 46 million.
- Unlike Philly, Washington, D.C. doesn’t count day-trippers in its methodology. It only counts overnight visitors. And in 2015 DC saw 19.3 million domestic visitors.
- Chicago beats out Philadelphia, as well as New York and DC (!), with 51 million domestic visitors in 2015, according to Choose Chicago.
Chicago is definitely a Success story .... in its huge increase in tourism...... and BY FAR. They all utilize its one Core CBD. Under the last two Mayor administrations. Promoting - tourism and build attractions to increase it..... were HUGE success stories, as noted in another poster in its yearly increases. One thing that this city did do right. For the results it achieved. Some cities attractions are far more spread across the city and metros. NYC in Manhattan and Chicago in the Core and Shore along its Lake Michigan coast by far. I
What Chicago lacks is the high International numbers of Coastal cities of the East and West Coast. It's Increasing, but for most still its mighty NYC and LA for the Hollywood/California mystique still alive in the world and NYC a given. Then you have the true resort vacation cities like Vegas, Orlando and Miami/Miami Beach.
So of course ..... few cities will gain the huge International numbers they get. But Chicago's Domestic numbers. Still do it proud and aids in stereotypes LESS hyped by visitors who in going home, give favorably great visit comments. TripAdvisor as a commonly use link also proves this.
Tons of YouTube video's of successful vlogs of visits also as they are called. Many I've viewed might hit the same touristy locations. But the one thing in common is .... expectations surpassed by far.
** I do not think the NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF TOURISM is a factor to Locals of this city. So really not for this thread. But comments were still made of stats and counts ..... so I replied why and there are counting differences too.
I think smaller cities who gain high tourism are far more wit area residents not as happy. Northern ones .... at least have the winter off-season to calm things down for them. NYC GENERLLY DIDLIKES THE TOURIST MOST.
*** How many times have I read how TORIST GET IN THE WAY ON SIDEWALKS LOOKING UP AND SUCH ....... BY NEW YORKERS
They want to shove them and yell. Move or get moving or get shoved.
So NYC is a given for this title of viewed NEGATIVELY MOST toward tourist. IMO