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NC: One could argue Raleigh is premier city; Charlotte is biggest, but may or may not be premier.
I live in NC, and there is no argument about what the premier city of NC is. Its not Raleigh. Maybe a few might argue that over in the Raleigh forum... but in the outside world, its not even a discussion.
I don't know if New Jersey has a "premier" city at all. All of its major cities like Newark, Camden, Jersey City, etc are suburbs of New York or Philadelphia and all these are known for crime and decay.
I think Birmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile have a similar profile in Alabama even though Mobile is smaller than the other two.
Mobile doesn't have the baggage of the other two and is somewhat helped by its Gulf Coast location and some cultural similarities with NOLA. That said, Birmingham is still the premier city of the state. Hopefully all the good things happening there these days will help to positively shape its image in the coming years.
I get what you're saying but I don't necessarily think that translates into "premier." Even so, I think Dallas is actually more representative of Texas to the rest of the country than the other big Texas cities. Austin seems to be the outlier compared to the others.
Baltimore is still the premier city of Maryland as no one city in the DC 'burbs matches it economically or culturally.
I get that but I'm asking because Nova is the same but its being brought up alot on here as a potential premiere region for VA. Nova and the MD burbs are really not that different from one another as they are the largest economic regions of their respective states.
I get that but I'm asking because Nova is the same but its being brought up alot on here as a potential premiere region for VA. Nova and the MD burbs are really not that different from one another as they are the largest economic regions of their respective states.
Exactly. The answer is DC. DC is the premier region for DC and Maryland. Not NoVA, or MoCo/PG. DC.
Since DC is not in VA or MD, Richmond and Baltimore are the premier city in their respective states. The suburbs of DC don't gt to be a premier city in their own right.
I don't know if New Jersey has a "premier" city at all. All of its major cities like Newark, Camden, Jersey City, etc are suburbs of New York or Philadelphia and all these are known for crime and decay. Yes, if Scottsdale and Tempe are suburbs then Newark is a suburb of NYC.
The only two larger cities in New Jersey that I don't totally associate with NYC or Philadelphia - Trenton and Atlantic City. Trenton is known as a very ghetto, Rust Belt type dump, nothing "premier" about it. Atlantic City is probably the only place in NJ that has an even remotely glamorous reputations and most of it is the past as half of its casinos are now closed. The only part of NJ thats even remotely pleasant is probably the far southern end of the shore.
Wow. Talk about bias and being stuck in the past. Jersey City is far from being known for crime and decay in 2019. Jersey City is 100% the premier city of New Jersey. That is likely your bias and being stuck in the past.
Again with your bias, the far southern end of the shore is not the most pleasant part of the state. The southern part of NJ is also the poorest part of the state. Cumberland, Atlantic, and Salem counties are quite rural and poor. The more densely populated and diverse counties of northern NJ are the best. Hudson County is still quite poor in the grand scheme of everything, but it's home to both Jersey City and Hoboken, both of which are, for the most part, doing extremely well for themselves.
I do agree, however, that as their own cities not attached to NYC or Philly, Trenton and AC are the only two standalone cities that can command their own MSA and sphere of influence. And both suck. But I stand by the fact that Jersey City is the premier city of NJ, while Newark is the largest.
I get that but I'm asking because Nova is the same but its being brought up alot on here as a potential premiere region for VA. Nova and the MD burbs are really not that different from one another as they are the largest economic regions of their respective states.
Richmond has consistently been named as VA's premier *city* though. Even then, there isn't this huge economic or population gap between the DC 'burbs in MD and metro Baltimore like there is between NoVA and VA's other metros.
And is there an actual source that says that the MD 'burbs of DC constitute the economic engine of the state over metro Baltimore? I'm aware of an article that talked about a shifting perception within the state but factually, I believe metro Baltimore still has the largest economic output in the state.
Richmond has consistently been named as VA's premier *city* though. Even then, there isn't this huge economic or population gap between the DC 'burbs in MD and metro Baltimore like there is between NoVA and VA's other metros.
News to me. Perhaps perceptions are different from afar. When I think of VA I think NOVA.
I don't know if New Jersey has a "premier" city at all. All of its major cities like Newark, Camden, Jersey City, etc are suburbs of New York or Philadelphia and all these are known for crime and decay. Yes, if Scottsdale and Tempe are suburbs then Newark is a suburb of NYC.
The only two larger cities in New Jersey that I don't totally associate with NYC or Philadelphia - Trenton and Atlantic City. Trenton is known as a very ghetto, Rust Belt type dump, nothing "premier" about it. Atlantic City is probably the only place in NJ that has an even remotely glamorous reputations and most of it is the past as half of its casinos are now closed. The only part of NJ thats even remotely pleasant is probably the far southern end of the shore.
I was thinking about New Jersey. I'm not sure what I'd go with and I'm glad you mentioned Atlantic City. It's the only one I thought of as wholly "New Jersey" and not inextricably connected to NYC/Philly. So I guess you could make the argument that Atlantic City, warts and all, is the "premiere city" of New Jersey. I'd probably still lean toward Newark. I know it's tied into NYC, and I know what the reputation has been historically, but it's definitely a city on the upswing.
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Maybe a few might argue that over in the Raleigh forum... but in the outside world, its not even a discussion.
