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Old 09-01-2019, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Huh?

Most people do not go by raw numbers. NY has a larger Black population than all of the states—including MS, GA, MD, etc.—California has a larger Black population that most states...

Yet, no one would say Cali and New York are “Blacker” or more Black-oriented than the other states I mentioned above.


Face it, BBMM...Mass is just a very white and white cultural state. And everybody knows.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...on?wprov=sfti1
There are just a lot of famous black people from MA, black ‘firsts’ in MA, and large cultural and social output from the state it’s an average amount of black and an average amount of white. So it’s not a problem to me how you view MA. It is what it is.

Al B Sure
Patrick Ewing
Donna Summer
Jasmine Guy
Amerie
Ed Og
Brian J. White
Malcolm X
Ayanna Pressley
Kenneth Reeves
Louis Farrakhan
Free
Joyner Lucas
Garcelle Beauvais
Helene Johnson
Dorothy West
The G-Clefs
Jidenna
Michael Carter-Williams
Shabazz Napier
Michael Beach
Tavares
Kofi Kingston
Mashonda
Deval Patrick
Christian Wilkins
Cousin Stizz
WEB DuBois
Frederick Douglass
One member of Shai
Guru
Pooch Hall
New Edition
Touré
Uzo Aduba
Patrice O’Neil
Edward Brooke
Benzino
Marvin Hagler
Ben Carson
Amanda Seales

And many others were either born in Boston or spent a substantial amount of there formative years in Massachusetts. They’ve all commanded national attention and praise over the years. Many have spoken on their time in Massachusetts as being important to their development. This is disregarding black institutions founded in Boston like the National Museum of Afro American Artists and OneUnited Bank-the largest black owned bank in the country. I don’t what more you can reasonable expect seeing as I left off dozens of other prominent blacks from Massachusetts. You’re also disregarding cultural events and festivals of which you have no idea.

Furthermore, who would call Mississippi the black capital to the US just because it has the highest percentage?


More importantly I haven’t even named any prominent Hispanic or Asian people from the state! Of whom there are many more than blacks. You have a perception and you might even have a whole narrative, and you’re not totally wrong, but you’re far from totally right or having everyone or even most people in agreement with you.

Connecticut is an extremely similar state whom I see as a brother state. I have no problem with someone claiming CT as the black capital of New England, doesn’t take away from my state.

As others have said if you live there and are around the state you’d know that . If you don’t that’s fine. It’s a big country with plenty to see. There are many much blacker states and just as many much whiter states.

Still, I’m a part of a wealthy, educated, high income state with an outsized impact on American cultural life. Pristine beaches, green mountains, prominent and unique cities, birthplace of basketball, diversity, legal marijuana, skiing, boating, progressive politics, best public education in the country, Martha’s Vineyard, winning sports teams, easy access to NYC, world class museums, hospitals and attractions. There’s nothing you could say to dissuade me of my pride in Massachusetts. It’s not perfect, but it’s home.

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Old 09-01-2019, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Aries4118, is exactly what I’m talking about.

People have a neat and orderly way in which black settlement plays out and are often unwilling to air downright hostile toward questioning their own preconceived notions or even discussing lesser known black populations in a fair way. There a lot of states with smaller black population than MA that aren’t of my concern that also have significant culture and history as well-that ought-IMO- to be acknowledged outside of their state.
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Old 09-01-2019, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Black Population, Raw Volume

Texas 3,330,204
Georgia 3,245,371
Florida 3,224,452

New York 2,846,481
North Carolina 2,175,617
California 2,164,239

Illinois 1,790,512
Maryland 1,776,692
Virginia 1,595,039
Louisiana 1,505,991
Ohio 1,421,030
Pennsylvania 1,367,815
Michigan 1,359,264
South Carolina 1,344,741
Alabama 1,302,295
New Jersey 1,148,321
Mississippi 1,130,323
Tennessee 1,115,187

Missouri 694,270
Indiana 613,080

Massachusetts 477,846
Arkansas 455,500
Wisconsin 362,314
Minnesota 356,949
Kentucky 355,829
Connecticut 354,320
Arizona 290,379
Oklahoma 283,068
Nevada 265,472
Washington 262,211

Colorado 219,500
Delaware 206,690
Kansas 161,148
Iowa 103,989

Nebraska 87,147
Oregon 74,345
West Virginia 71,358
Rhode Island 57,196
New Mexico 38,022
Utah 35,689

North Dakota 22,830
Hawaii 22,629
Alaska 21,192
New Hampshire 18,023
South Dakota 16,345
Maine 15,761
Vermont 7,731
Wyoming 5,154
Montana 4,380
As of July 1, 2018 Massachusetts has 500,276 non-Hispanic, non mixed race Black Americans.

Source: https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...prodType=table

This gets us back to the heart of the thread anyway which wasn’t really about culture.

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Old 09-01-2019, 01:19 PM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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As of July 1, 2018 Massachusetts has 500,276 non-Hispanic, non mixed race Black Americans.

Source: https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...prodType=table

This gets us back to the heart of the thread anyway which wasn’t really about culture.
Good feed...

There really is no argument that Mass is the black capital of New England. Connecticut doesn't have anywhere close to Mass's cultural contributions to Black American culture...
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Old 09-02-2019, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Good feed...

There really is no argument that Mass is the black capital of New England. Connecticut doesn't have anywhere close to Mass's cultural contributions to Black American culture...
Movies starring black actors or casts set in Massachusetts:

The Inkwell (Larenz Tate)
How High (Method Man/Red Man/Mike Epps)
Proud Mary (Taraji P. Henson/Danny Glover)
Jumping the Broom (Every damn body)
The Equalizer 1/2 (Denzel Washington)
Gone Baby Gone (Morgan Freeman)
Lift (Kerry Washington)
Squeeze (Tyrone Burton)
Blue Hill Ave(Allen Payne)

How many could we name for Connecticut?

I can only think of My Wife and Kids and the Choate scenes in Power.
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:19 AM
 
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Black Percentage by state, 2017

Mississippi 37.9%
Louisiana 32.2%
Georgia 31.1%

Maryland 29.4%
South Carolina 26.8%
Alabama 26.7%
Delaware 21.5%
North Carolina 21.2%

Virginia 18.8%
Tennessee 16.6%
Florida 15.4%
Arkansas 15.2%

New York 14.3%
Illinois 14%
Michigan 13.6%
New Jersey 12.8%
National Average 12.3%
Ohio 12.2%
Texas 11.8%
Missouri 11.4%
Pennsylvania 10.7%

Connecticut 9.9%
Indiana 9.2%
Nevada 8.9%
Kentucky 8%
Oklahoma 7.2%
Massachusetts 7%
Minnesota 6.4%
Wisconsin 6.3%
California 5.5%
Kansas 5.5%
Rhode Island 5.4%

Nebraska 4.5%
Arizona 4.1%
Colorado 3.9%
West Virginia 3.9%
Washington 3.5%
Iowa 3.3%
North Dakota 3%
Alaska 2.9%

South Dakota 1.9%
Oregon 1.8%
New Mexico 1.8%
Hawaii 1.6%
New Hampshire 1.3%
Utah 1.2%
Maine 1.2%
Vermont 1.2%

Wyoming 0.9%
Idaho 0.6%
Montana 0.4%

•Only 16 of the 50 states have a black percentage above national average. Approximately 65.3% of Black Americans live in these 16 states (pop 26,222,476)...

•there is a contiguous black belt that spans the entire Southeast minus Kentucky and West Virginia, and snakes up the eastern seaboard to include New Jersey and New York...

•more states are in the 5-10% range than any other category...

•the states right in the middle, percentage-wise, are Oklahoma and Massachusetts, at 7.2% and 7%. In a certain perspective, these states can be seen as having "average" black population...

Source: http://censusreporter.org/profiles/0...united-states/
These are black alone, non Hispanic figures/estimates, right?

Also, something to keep in mind with all of this: https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/fol...ack-population

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/04/72803...le-in-30-years From the article: “Nationally, black residents could be undercounted by as much as 3.68%.”

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Old 09-02-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Black Percentage by state, 2017

Mississippi 37.9%
Louisiana 32.2%
Georgia 31.1%

Maryland 29.4%
South Carolina 26.8%
Alabama 26.7%
Delaware 21.5%
North Carolina 21.2%

Virginia 18.8%
Tennessee 16.6%
Florida 15.4%
Arkansas 15.2%

New York 14.3%
Illinois 14%
Michigan 13.6%
New Jersey 12.8%
National Average 12.3%
Ohio 12.2%
Texas 11.8%
Missouri 11.4%
Pennsylvania 10.7%

Connecticut 9.9%
Indiana 9.2%
Nevada 8.9%
Kentucky 8%
Oklahoma 7.2%
Massachusetts 7%
Minnesota 6.4%
Wisconsin 6.3%
California 5.5%
Kansas 5.5%
Rhode Island 5.4%

Nebraska 4.5%
Arizona 4.1%
Colorado 3.9%
West Virginia 3.9%
Washington 3.5%
Iowa 3.3%
North Dakota 3%
Alaska 2.9%

South Dakota 1.9%
Oregon 1.8%
New Mexico 1.8%
Hawaii 1.6%
New Hampshire 1.3%
Utah 1.2%
Maine 1.2%
Vermont 1.2%

Wyoming 0.9%
Idaho 0.6%
Montana 0.4%
These numbers were non-Hispanic blacks; including Hispanic Blacks as of '18, there is slight variation in order, but I'll post anyway:

by percentage

Mississippi 37.8%
Louisiana 32.7%
Georgia 32.4%
Maryland 30.9%

South Carolina 27.1%
Alabama 26.8%
Delaware 23%
North Carolina 22.2%

Virginia 19.9%
New York 17.6%
Tennessee 17.1%
Florida 16.9%
Arkansas 15.7%
New Jersey 15%

Illinois 14.6%
Michigan 14.1%
Ohio 13%
Texas 12.8%
National Average 12.3%
Pennsylvania 12%
Connecticut 12%
Missouri 11.8%
Nevada 10.1%

Indiana 9.8%
Massachusetts 8.9%
Kentucky 8.4%
Rhode Island 8.4%
Oklahoma 7.8%
Minnesota 6.8%
Wisconsin 6.7%
California 6.5%
Kansas 6.1%
Arizona 5.1%
Nebraska 5.1%

Colorado 4.6%
Washington 4.3%
Iowa 4%
Alaska 3.8%
West Virginia 3.6%
North Dakota 3.4%
New Mexico 2.6%

South Dakota 2.4%
Oregon 2.2%
Hawaii 2.2%
New Hampshire 1.7%
Maine 1.6%
Utah 1.4%
Vermont 1.4%
Wyoming 1.3%

Idaho 0.9%
Montana 0.6%

by population

Texas 3,673,855
Florida 3,600,121
New York 3,447,729
Georgia 3,411,145

California 2,556,000
North Carolina 2,306,797

Maryland 1,867,592
Illinois 1,860,190
Virginia 1,651,685
Pennsylvania 1,531,457
Louisiana 1,526,090
Ohio 1,517,999
Michigan 1,408,392
South Carolina 1,380,145
New Jersey 1,337,754
Alabama 1,310,802
Tennessee 1,155,631
Mississippi 1,128,912

Missouri 724,529
Indiana 658,729
Massachusetts 617,097

Arkansas 472,287
Connecticut 429,298
Wisconsin 389,047
Minnesota 380,414
Kentucky 375,972
Arizona 364,280
Washington 322,826
Oklahoma 306,890
Nevada 305,848
Colorado 259,711

Delaware 222,070
Kansas 178,618
Iowa 124,819

Nebraska 98,757
Oregon 92,958
Rhode Island 88,411
West Virginia 65,231
New Mexico 53,576

Utah 45,700
Hawaii 31,138
Alaska 27,942
North Dakota 25,620

New Hampshire 23,293
Maine 21,877
South Dakota 21,000
Idaho 15,775
Vermont 8,753
Wyoming 7,557
Montana 6,237
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Old 09-05-2019, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Yea fair enough, I wasnt sure how you were appraoching it

Lets talk about that last paragraph. This is the time and place for it!
Sorry for the long awaited response.

I'll say that it doesn't leave room for social advancement & middle class lifestyle but it is cumbersome when most of the talk is the same metros per say.
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:54 PM
 
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New Jersey seems to get overlooked somewhat in this conversation, but it is the state outside of the South with the second highest percentage and the population is spread throughout the state. Southern NJ seems to be forgotten about, but has quite a few places with at least substantial percentages like Atlantic City, Vineland, Millville, Bridgeton, Salem, Swedesboro and Paulsboro, let alone Camden and some of its suburbs.
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Old 09-05-2019, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I really hope you're joking..

I’m pretty sure it’s the second most popular genre of music that the U.S exports after Puerto Rican reggaeton. Or was at least just a few years back.
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