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View Poll Results: What state(s) has seen the most demographic change?
Texas 34 40.00%
Massachusetts/Rhode Island 10 11.76%
Florida 15 17.65%
California 22 25.88%
Minnesota 5 5.88%
Nevada 12 14.12%
Georgia 16 18.82%
Arizona 7 8.24%
North Carolina 18 21.18%
Other (please specify) 3 3.53%
Demographic Change has been generally equal in the US 1 1.18%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 85. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-02-2020, 12:11 PM
 
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NC has been explosive in Hispanic growth. Explosive. Where my family lives in NC, abuts an upper middle class area with atleast 20 undocumented families from Mexico. I find it amazing, since they are all helping eachother out, all came to the United States within the past 5 years and are extremely nice, hospitable people.

Charlotte, Winston Salem/Greensboro and Fayetteville (Not sure about the Triangle) have all seen major growth in Latino populations. Good economy, good jobs, lower COL, temperate weather. Its definitely less hostile than moving directly to LA, Boston, New York or SF.

Im glad to see NC diversify fast. Im really excited to see the 2020 census.
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As usual, people tend to be sleeping on Georgia.

While our rate of growth compared to NC is almost identical, we have a larger Latino, Asian and foreign born population. NC has a higher Native American population, due primarily to the Cherokee reservation. Just saying...

I voted for these two states.
Yeah, Georgia too.

But Kansas and Oklahoma also seem to having quickly growing Latino populations.

I notice that a large chunk of posters still think that the West/Southwest has a monopoly on non-Caribbean Latinos.
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Old 09-02-2020, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Lets put some numbers into this. Ill start with Metro Areas and Ill do states too.

Lets start with metro area racial change from 2013-2018:

Asian Growth:

San Francisco: 163,198
Los Angeles: 158,433
New York City: 144,983
Dallas/Fort Worth: 144,870
Seattle: 115,216
Houston: 109,341
San Jose: 99,194
Atlanta: 74,041
Boston: 71,317
Chicago: 70,738
Washington DC: 61,251
Philadelphia: 46,237
Sacramento: 43,468
Minneapolis/St Paul: 38,852
Riverside: 38,804
Detroit: 36,048
Austin: 35,526
Phoenix: 32,629
Portland: 32,239
Charlotte: 32,222
Las Vegas: 29,371
Denver: 26,161
Baltimore: 19,659
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 19,238
Tampa: 16,628
Orlando: 16,153

Black Growth:

Atlanta: 222,757
Dallas/Fort Worth: 165,365
Houston: 125,117
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 59,816
Washington DC: 54,816
Orlando: 53,773
Charlotte: 53,544
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 53,144
Phoenix: 45,634
Las Vegas: 41,596
Columbus: 43,977
Boston: 40,791
Tampa: 33,699
Seattle: 33,287
Detroit: 29,134
Indianapolis: 28,829
Jacksonville: 24,741
Nashville: 21,462
Raleigh/Cary: 18,965
San Antonio: 18,500
Austin: 18,455
Denver: 16,459
Philadelphia: 15,268
Philadelphia: 14,757
Baltimore: 14,190
Providence: 12,856
Riverside: 12,324
Louisville: 11,970
New Orleans: 11,754
Sacramento: 9,153
Cincinnati: 8,885
Oklahoma City: 7,948
Jackson, MS: 7,000
Virginia Beach: 6,101
Richmond: 6,972
San Diego: 5,428
Salt Lake City: 4,368
Buffalo: 4,340
Portland: 3,804
Kansas City: 3,034
Hartford: 2,232
St. Louis: 2,021
Birmingham: 1,781
San Jose: 364
Milwaukee: 34
Pittsburgh: -3,378
Cleveland: -7,582
San Francisco: -11,247
Los Angeles: -13,982
New York: -43,758
Chicago: -61,911

Hispanic Growth:

Houston: 352,964
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 351,185
Dallas/Fort Worth: 280,334
Riverside: 244,166
New York: 234,553
Phoenix: 199,489
Orlando: 190,733
San Antonio: 158,786
Washington DC: 135,442
Tampa: 132,928
Austin: 106,853
Los Angeles: 103,525
Boston: 97,165
Las Vegas: 93,961
Chicago: 85,842
San Diego: 77,720
Philadelphia: 76,540
Atlanta: 66,989
Denver: 66,563
Seattle: 60,215
Sacramento: 51,057
San Francisco: 50,299
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 24,938
Detroit: 19,129
San Jose: -3,646

White Growth:

Salt Lake City: 153,397
Phoenix: 138,064
Denver: 111,035
Austin: 108,349
Dallas/Fort Worth: 107,947
Nashville: 98,172
Charlotte: 80,113
Houston: 67,022
Tampa: 64,866
Seattle: 63,433
Portland: 58,237
Jacksonville: 55,671
San Antonio: 42,648
Kansas City: 40,709
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 41,001
Columbus: 33,862
Atlanta: 30,497
Orlando: 29,483
Indianapolis: 18,379
Oklahoma City: 16,706
Sacramento: 5,755
Las Vegas: 5,665
San Diego: -4,308
Cincinnati: -6,878
Washington DC: -7,779
San Francisco: -21,168
Virginia Beach: -23,031
St. Louis: -24,161
Milwaukee: -24,405
San Jose: -30,687
Detroit: -34,605
Cleveland: -37,503
Providence: -42,131
Boston:-44,021
Baltimore: -56,555
Pittsburgh: -60,262
Riverside: -72,523
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: -89,369
Philadelphia: -109,646
Los Angeles: -134,530
Chicago: -179,629
New York City: -377,360
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Old 09-02-2020, 01:19 PM
 
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Right. Many of the posters don't even realize places like Massachusetts and North Carolina are hotspots for Latino immigration, that's why those states are better examples of this than places like California.
Georgia has seen significant Latino growth as well. To be fair though Tennessee did see 134% Latino group from 2000-2010 but there were only 123,000 latinos there to begin with in 2000. North Carolina went from 378,000 to 962,000(2020 estimate) Georgia went from 435,000 to 1 million(2020 estimate)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ino_population

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Old 09-02-2020, 01:24 PM
 
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Georgia is definitely more diverse but dis. Change more? I’m asking- did GA already have larger Native Latino and Asian population in 1990?
I'm pretty sure. The growth in the 90's was explosive with the run-up to the Olympics. I tried to find the data, but no luck.
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Old 09-02-2020, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Georgia has seen significant Latino growth as well. To be fair though Tennessee did see 134% Latino group from 2000-2010 but there were only 123,000 latinos there to begin with in 2000. North Carolina went from 378,000 to 962,000(2020 estimate) Georgia went from 435,000 to 1 million(2020 estimate)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ino_population
Massachusetts went from 428,000 in 2000 to 855,000 in 2019. But it saw almost 300,000 whites leave unlike NC and GA. And it’s a smaller state population wise. It led the nation in illegal immigrant growth from 2007-2017. So we can assume that Hispanic number is quite a bit undercounted.

But I definitely put NC and GA here for a reason.

Rhode Island was 4.4% Latino in 1990. It’s was 16.0% Latino in 2018.

The raw number of Latinos nearly quadrupled in 28 years. It’s probably the most impressive in Latino cultural expansion save for NC.

When your state is the size of Jacksonville, FL and it’s extremely dense (only NJ is more densely populated) these changes are very very noticeable.
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Old 09-02-2020, 01:59 PM
 
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Massachusetts went from 428,000 in 2000 to 855,000 in 2019. But it saw almost 300,000 whites leave unlike NC and GA. And it’s a smaller state. It led the nation in illegal immigrant growth from 2007-2017. So we can assume that Hispanic number is quite a bit undercounted.

But I definitely put NC and GA here for a reason.

Rhode Island was 4.4% Latino in 1990. It’s was 16.0% Latino in 2018.

The raw number of Latinos nearly quadrupled in 28 years. It’s probably the most impressive in Latino cultural expansion save for NC.

Yes Massachusetts certainly is seeing more impressive growth as of lately, it grew more percentage wise from 2010-2020 but North Carolina and Georgia grew more from 2000-2010. I agree Massachusetts is a smaller state, but it also was more diverse and had more Hispanics to begin with relative to its population compared to Georgia and North Carolina.

For example the Hispanic percentage of the total population of each state changed to the following:

2000 2010 2017 (net growth)

Massachusetts 6.8% 9.6% 11.8% (+5%)
North Carolina 4.7% 8.4% 9.4% (+4.7%)
Georgia 5.3% 8.8% 9.6% (+4.3%)
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Old 09-02-2020, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Yes Massachusetts certainly is seeing more impressive growth as of lately, it grew more percentage wise from 2010-2020 but North Carolina and Georgia grew more from 2000-2010. I agree Massachusetts is a smaller state, but it also was more diverse and had more Hispanics to begin with relative to its population compared to Georgia and North Carolina.

For example the Hispanic percentage of the total population of each state changed to the following:

2000 2010 2017 (net growth)

Massachusetts 6.8% 9.6% 11.8% (+5%)
North Carolina 4.7% 8.4% 9.4% (+4.7%)
Georgia 5.3% 8.8% 9.6% (+4.3%)

11.8%?

I've got MA at 12.4% latino here: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/MA

and 12.3% here: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...ePreview=false


Thats 2018 data though

I wouldnt say MA was/is more racially diverse than GA or NC. The data doesnt support that. Ethnically yes but racially? no.

The biggest change in MA now is Asian growth. They will outnumber blacks in Massachusetts by 2030. Major growth west of Boston.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:15 PM
 
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Lets put some numbers into this. Ill start with Metro Areas and Ill do states too.

Lets start with metro area racial change from 2013-2018:

Asian Growth:

San Francisco: 163,198
Los Angeles: 158,433
New York City: 144,983
Dallas/Fort Worth: 144,870
Seattle: 115,216
Houston: 109,341
San Jose: 99,194
Atlanta: 74,041
Boston: 71,317
Chicago: 70,738
Washington DC: 61,251
Philadelphia: 46,237
Sacramento: 43,468
Minneapolis/St Paul: 38,852
Riverside: 38,804
Detroit: 36,048
Austin: 35,526
Phoenix: 32,629
Portland: 32,239
Charlotte: 32,222
Las Vegas: 29,371
Denver: 26,161
Baltimore: 19,659
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 19,238
Tampa: 16,628
Orlando: 16,153

Black Growth:

Atlanta: 222,757
Dallas/Fort Worth: 165,365
Houston: 125,117
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 59,816
Washington DC: 54,816
Orlando: 53,773
Charlotte: 53,544
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 53,144
Phoenix: 45,634
Las Vegas: 41,596
Columbus: 43,977
Boston: 40,791
Tampa: 33,699
Seattle: 33,287
Detroit: 29,134
Indianapolis: 28,829
Jacksonville: 24,741
Nashville: 21,462
Raleigh/Cary: 18,965
San Antonio: 18,500
Austin: 18,455
Denver: 16,459
Philadelphia: 15,268
Philadelphia: 14,757
Baltimore: 14,190
Providence: 12,856
Riverside: 12,324
Louisville: 11,970
New Orleans: 11,754
Sacramento: 9,153
Cincinnati: 8,885
Oklahoma City: 7,948
Jackson, MS: 7,000
Virginia Beach: 6,101
Richmond: 6,972
San Diego: 5,428
Salt Lake City: 4,368
Buffalo: 4,340
Portland: 3,804
Kansas City: 3,034
Hartford: 2,232
St. Louis: 2,021
Birmingham: 1,781
San Jose: 364
Milwaukee: 34
Pittsburgh: -3,378
Cleveland: -7,582
San Francisco: -11,247
Los Angeles: -13,982
New York: -43,758
Chicago: -61,911

Hispanic Growth:

Houston: 352,964
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 351,185
Dallas/Fort Worth: 280,334
Riverside: 244,166
New York: 234,553
Phoenix: 199,489
Orlando: 190,733
San Antonio: 158,786
Washington DC: 135,442
Tampa: 132,928
Austin: 106,853
Los Angeles: 103,525
Boston: 97,165
Las Vegas: 93,961
Chicago: 85,842
San Diego: 77,720
Philadelphia: 76,540
Atlanta: 66,989
Denver: 66,563
Seattle: 60,215
Sacramento: 51,057
San Francisco: 50,299
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 24,938
Detroit: 19,129
San Jose: -3,646

White Growth:

Salt Lake City: 153,397
Phoenix: 138,064
Denver: 111,035
Austin: 108,349
Dallas/Fort Worth: 107,947
Nashville: 98,172
Charlotte: 80,113
Houston: 67,022
Tampa: 64,866
Seattle: 63,433
Portland: 58,237
Jacksonville: 55,671
San Antonio: 42,648
Kansas City: 40,709
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 41,001
Columbus: 33,862
Atlanta: 30,497
Orlando: 29,483
Indianapolis: 18,379
Oklahoma City: 16,706
Sacramento: 5,755
Las Vegas: 5,665
San Diego: -4,308
Cincinnati: -6,878
Washington DC: -7,779
San Francisco: -21,168
Virginia Beach: -23,031
St. Louis: -24,161
Milwaukee: -24,405
San Jose: -30,687
Detroit: -34,605
Cleveland: -37,503
Providence: -42,131
Boston:-44,021
Baltimore: -56,555
Pittsburgh: -60,262
Riverside: -72,523
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: -89,369
Philadelphia: -109,646
Los Angeles: -134,530
Chicago: -179,629
New York City: -377,360
Most of the places with decreasing white populations are in decline. Atlanta better take notice it only saw an increase of 30K whites, very subpar for a growing sunbelt city. During the same period Nashville saw almost an increase of 100K whites.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:27 PM
 
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Lets put some numbers into this. Ill start with Metro Areas and Ill do states too.

Lets start with metro area racial change from 2013-2018:
When you do states, could you do percentage growth in addition to raw numbers? Like 20,000 new Asian residents in Wyoming may feel more impactful than 100,000 in CA or TX.

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Most of the places with decreasing white populations are in decline. Atlanta better take notice it only saw an increase of 30K whites, very subpar for a growing sunbelt city. During the same period Nashville saw almost an increase of 100K whites.
I feel like less than half those cities are in decline. Like Cleveland and Detroit? Sure. Los Angeles and DC? No way.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:33 PM
 
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The nation's top-rated public high school according to "U.S. News and World Report" is Thomas Jefferson magnet H.S. in Fairfax/ Springfield, Virginia. Student enrollment is 73% Asian, 18% white, 9% other. People are complaining now that's unfair, and there should be "Affirmative Action" to reduce the Asian figures, and admit lower-scoring non-Asians ahead of them.
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