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Old 10-22-2019, 07:20 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Greenville, SC has a small city population relative to metro population.
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Old 10-22-2019, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Boston Hartford Providence DC Miami SF
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Old 10-22-2019, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Hartford is 17 square miles with a metro of 1.2 million
Providence is is 20.6 square miles with a metro of 1.6 million
Boston is 48 square miles with a metro of 4.8 million
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Old 10-22-2019, 07:37 AM
 
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Hartford is 17 square miles with a metro of 1.2 million
Providence is is 20.6 square miles with a metro of 1.6 million
Boston is 48 square miles with a metro of 4.8 million
Even cities we consider “sprawling” like Worcester are pretty small by national standards, 37 sq miles.
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Old 10-22-2019, 08:04 AM
 
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Albany NY is only 21 square miles with a metro population of about 884,000 and a CSA of almost 1.2 million. It is a multi nodal metro, but Schenectady is only 11 square miles and Troy is only just under 10.4 square miles. Those city land areas combined is still smaller than many one city metros/CSAs of a similar size.

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Old 10-22-2019, 09:10 AM
 
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Pittsburgh too
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Old 10-22-2019, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Albany NY is only 21 square miles with a metro population of about 884,000 and a CSA of almost 1.2 million. It is a multi nodal metro, but Schenectady is only 11 square miles and Troy is only just under 10.4 square miles. Those city land areas combined is still smaller than many one city metros/CSAs of a similar size.
Dang that's small. That's like Wilmington Delaware small, I know the Upstate cites aren't very big but still.
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Old 10-22-2019, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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My criteria for small is anything below 100 square miles
Mid-Sized 100-499 square miles
Big 500 plus.
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Old 10-22-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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Pittsburgh too

Pittsburgh city limits are only 55 sq miles, and about 20% of the land is too steep for deevelopment. so compared to less hilly cities, the land area is really more like only 45 sq miles.
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Old 10-22-2019, 10:03 AM
 
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Dang that's small. That's like Wilmington Delaware small, I know the Upstate cites aren't very big but still.
Yes, I don't think people consider the land size of cities they compare. For cities in Upstate NY, most of the relatively decent to larger sized cities are only 10-40 square miles, if not smaller in regards to the Poughkeepsie(5 sq. mi.)-Newburgh(3.8 sq. mi.)-Middletown(5 sq. mi.) area, but there are 5 metro areas that are in the top 90-100 in the country in population from that part of the state. So, I don't know if people realize how a lot of city proper comparisons between different regions aren't necessarily tit for tat in terms of land size.

For instance, Syracuse is only 25 square miles, which is similar to Greenville SC, but has 2 and a half times as many people within its city limits. This goes for other Northeastern cities as well. So, this is something to consider when viewing different cities.

However, having a smaller, but more compact built environment might be good in terms of walkability potential for these cities as well.
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