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As for suburban neighborhoods in the middle of big urban areas - I get that they exist. They are not the norm though for urban living. .
Actually, in our country they are. Outside of the handful of dense legacy cities, most of the sunbelt cities are suburban in feel. When I moved to Houston (the nation’s fourth largest city, btw) looking for a place to live, I kept looking for “the city.” What I found was a collection of business centers where virtually no one lived surrounded by suburban-like neighborhoods.
I moved to a single-family house five minutes from the CBD with my own yard well inside inside 610 loop. Friends from outside the loop would often visit exclaiming how lucky I was to live in the city. Always felt suburban (less than urban) to me, but there you have it. Here is a view from a typical Montrose street, minutes from City Hall https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7403...7i16384!8i8192
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Actually, in our country they are. Outside of the handful of dense legacy cities, most of the sunbelt cities are suburban in feel. When I moved to Houston (the nation’s fourth largest city, btw) looking for a place to live, I kept looking for “the city.” What I found was a collection of business centers where virtually no one lived surrounded by suburban-like neighborhoods.
I moved to a single-family house five minutes from the CBD with my own yard well inside inside 610 loop. Friends from outside the loop would often visit exclaiming how lucky I was to live in the city. Always felt suburban (less than urban) to me, but there you have it. Here is a view from a typical Montrose street, minutes from City Hall https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7403...7i16384!8i8192
That location is really nice for being inside a city. I am impressed.
But these areas are more removed from the Cores of their cities. Philly's is its farther Northwest Area I believe. Totally unlike the rest of the city that has a built environment of 60% row-homes and blocks. The region keeps it from being 80% rows or much more as a point.
Nice areas but not areas visitors, tourist or those in a city for work/business see. All major cites have some. Just some less within its city-proper's.
But do residents in most suburban areas of major cities...... go more regularly into the Cores...... unless they work there? It's basically, the same situation as the question to Suburbanites for the thread. Especially if their neighborhood is more removed from their major city Cores, by more miles then blocks.
We all know that..... most of our fast growing Sunbelt cities. Get more suburban much faster closer to their Cores then much longer earlier built-up cites early in the 20th century and before. Nothing new in that.
But these areas are more removed from the Cores of their cities. Philly's is its farther Northwest Area I believe. Totally unlike the rest of the city that has a built environment of 60% row-homes and blocks. The region keeps it from being 80% rows or much more as a point.
Nice areas but not areas visitors, tourist or those in a city for work/business see. All major cites have some. Just some less within its city-proper's.
But do residents in most suburban areas of major cities...... go more regularly into the Cores...... unless they work there? It's basically, the same situation as the question to Suburbanites for the thread. Especially if their neighborhood is more removed from their major city Cores, by more miles then blocks.
We all know that..... most of our fast growing Sunbelt cities. Get more suburban much faster closer to their Cores then much longer earlier built-up cites early in the 20th century and before. Nothing new in that.
No, these are all neighborhoods in those core cities, which is what the thread is about. Keep in mind that OP is talking about the core city. I take that as the city proper center or centers of a metro.
That location is really nice for being inside a city. I am impressed.
Pretty much every city, no matter how urban, has leafy sun-splashed neighborhoods inside their city limits. For example, here is a Philadelphia neighborhood only about 10 miles from city hall: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0677...7i16384!8i8192
The difference is that sunbelt cities can't offer urbanity on this level:
In the Southern California Los Angeles area there really isn't a core city to be "afraid" of. It depends more on which specific neighborhood, not even a city with a not so good reputation since they too have decent swaths of subdivisions. There are suburbs here that can make people more afraid than the urban city areas with the hardcore reputations of 20 or more years ago.
If this was a poll Philadelphia would be winning by a landslide. Hell, there's people in Delco and Bucks that refuse to visit the Sports Complex out of fear of being shot or carjacked. Thank you channel 3,10, 29 and the Inquirer for the constant fearmongering.
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