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Old 11-08-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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Define "quality health care". Is that access to world class specialists in just about any specialty? If so, you probably want to be near a top-10 to top-20 medical school with the top teaching hospitals. Of the top-20, Duke and Vanderbilt are the only affordable warmer climate places.


...so put Nashville on your list. Just be aware that the most desirable suburbs in Williamson County south of the city stopped being particularly affordable 4 or 5 years ago. If you want affordable housing, you're going to be pretty far from the Lamborghini and Ferrari dealerships and the Whole Foods.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:18 PM
 
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I'm a lifelong NC resident. The Triangle area has a very bad crime rate and so does Charlotte. Personally, I'd choose Asheville if I had to live in this state the rest of my life, followed by Boone, Gastonia, and maybe Huntersville.
Asheville was on my list a few years ago and I visited and did a lot of research. Rents are high and HCA purchased Mission Hospital, which is not good news in my view. HCA is a huge for-profit health company, and they were fined over $2 billion for systematically defrauding the federal gov't healthcare programs. I'm not interested in getting healthcare from that kind of system.

"In 1993, lawsuits were filed against HCA by former employees who drew attention to the company's questionable billing practices to Medicare for hundreds of millions of dollars.[5] Some of the allegations included charging the government costs for running its hospitals, paying kickbacks to physicians for referrals, and unlawfully charging for costs involving wound care facilities. A federal probe ensued, spanning nearly a decade, and culminated in 2003 with the government receiving a total of over $2 billion in criminal fines and civil penalties for systematically defrauding federal health care programs. The federal probe has been referred to as the longest and costliest investigation for health-care fraud in U.S. history."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCA_Healthcare

But, Asheville is certainly a nice mountain town to visit.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:19 PM
 
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Just be careful to evaluate just what "high crime" is. What we hear on the news and sometimes rates of crime itself can be deceiving.

The fact is, most crimes A) are usually in specific areas of any city and B) the victims and perpetrators know one another the vast majority of the time. So in most any town, if one is aware of their surroundings, knows what areas to stay out of, and uses personal safety common sense, they will be fine. If you're looking at a metro area, you can find nice, safe areas within any metro area. One poster suggested Gastonia, NC (a Charlotte suburb). I actually live in Gastonia. It has a higher-than-average crime rate, but I've been here 50 of my 54 years of life. Out of all of that time, the only issue I've ever had was in 1988 someone broke into a home I was renting. That was it. I've always lived by the rules I mentioned above and have had pretty much no problems. Anyway, just another way to look at crime rates so you don't prematurely rule out a good area by judging from the rate of crime alone. Good luck in your search!
Thanks for the post. Good info and I'll check out Gastonia.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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Define "quality health care". Is that access to world class specialists in just about any specialty? If so, you probably want to be near a top-10 to top-20 medical school with the top teaching hospitals. Of the top-20, Duke and Vanderbilt are the only affordable warmer climate places.


...so put Nashville on your list. Just be aware that the most desirable suburbs in Williamson County south of the city stopped being particularly affordable 4 or 5 years ago. If you want affordable housing, you're going to be pretty far from the Lamborghini and Ferrari dealerships and the Whole Foods.
I'd like a hospital system that is ranked in the top 25 - 50. I don't need top level specialists in every field, otherwise I'd have to move to NYC or Boston, which are certainly not on my list.

Duke and Vandy are both great systems. And yeah, I'll skip the Lamborghini and Ferrari dealers......lol Thanks for posting.

Finding a warmer place is certainly on my mind this week. Just finished digging out from under a foot of snow here in SE Michigan......we got hammered. And it's going down to 5 degrees tonight. Yikes! Oh yeah, and the leaves are still on the trees....
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Kansas City, Columbia, Cincinnati, Louisville.
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Old 11-14-2019, 05:27 PM
 
Location: East Tennessee and Atlanta
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Based on your criteria below, these are my suggestions:

*Chattanooga, TN
*Knoxville, TN
*Raleigh-Durham, NC
*Greeneville, SC
*Nashville, TN
*Charleston, SC
*Greensboro, NC
*Huntsville, AL
*Jacksonville, FL
*San Antonio, TX
*Roanoke, VA
*Atlanta, GA metro

1. Quality, accessible healthcare (doctors taking new patients without 3-4 months wait times)

2. Mild winters (some snow ok, no blizzards, no minus 30 wind chills)

3. Moderate cost of living (lower is better, but moderate is ok)


Other priorities include:

4. Safety (comfortable enough city to walk around in the evening)

5. Large enough to have good public libraries, Whole Foods and Trader Joe's, and Uber/Lyft
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:06 PM
 
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When is Chattanooga getting a Trader Joe's? Where will it be located?
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Old 11-16-2019, 04:19 PM
 
Location: East Tennessee and Atlanta
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When is Chattanooga getting a Trader Joe's? Where will it be located?
There isn't a Trader Joe's in Chattanooga yet--but my guess would be they'll open one there in a couple years.

Tennessee has TJ's in Memphis, Nashville & Knoxville currently.

But realistically could add a 3rd store in Nashville, one in Chattanooga, a 2nd in Knoxville and one in Clarksville or Mufreesboro.

Use this site to request a TJ store:

https://www.traderjoes.com/contact-us/location-request
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Old 11-17-2019, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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A lot of cities. Nashville came to mind first
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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Kansas City, Columbia, Cincinnati, Louisville.
Interesting that you mentioned Kansas City. I lived there in the 1980's for several years, and I enjoyed it. I still have friends there and have visited a few times over the years, but not recently. I think it checks a lot of boxes, though crime is an issue in the city itself.

The downtown areas are being developed, which is nice to see. The burbs are nice on the KS side (Overland Park), but a bit boring. Missouri is mixed in terms of COL, however, and groceries (basics like bread and milk) are taxed (5-6%) in KCMO. Rents are a bit lower than other big cities, but cars have a high property tax annually, one of the highest in the country. Excellent healthcare (KU Med). So, kind of a mixed bag, like most places, and it depends on what trade-offs one is willing to make. Very nice city overall.
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