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Old 04-21-2008, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Iowa, Des Moines Metro
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Wow, reading your posts it's obvious you're a total racist...
Do you sound as 'valley girl' as I think you do when you say this?

It's pretty well known that there is a direct correlation with heavily populated Black communities and crime. That doesn't mean all Blacks are poor criminals, and it doesn't make him racist.

So no - it's not a correlation for every city with a lot of Black people, however - you can't deny the facts and trends! Don't be so petty to call someone racist for being smart enough to identify a fact.

I feel like Whites have to go to such a large extent to prove they aren't racist. It's just a fact, simply identifying it doesn't make you racist/backwards/redneck.
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:20 AM
 
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It's pretty well known that there is a direct correlation with heavily populated Black communities and crime. That doesn't mean all Blacks are poor criminals, and it doesn't make him racist.

So no - it's not a correlation for every city with a lot of Black people, however - you can't deny the facts and trends! Don't be so petty to call someone racist for being smart enough to identify a fact.


Yes it is a fact as you pointed out and pointing out facts does not make a person a racist. However, while you are pointing out "facts" we can get into a lengthy debate about why these facts are true and maybe those who post in this thread won't like to know the whole truth. And with facts I can indeed point out that there is a correlation between generation after generation of blacks being purposely and hatefully oppressed by one racial group and a resulting incessant black and poor and sometimes violent lower class.
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:28 AM
 
Location: DFW area
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So, who else agrees or disagrees with these statistics? I live around the Nashville area, and there seems to be crime here all the time! For a city population of around 650,000 and the metro area at 1.5 mil. it's kinda crazy.
Unfortunately, the metro police dept. is understaffed, so that doesn't help much either.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:23 AM
 
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It's pretty well known that there is a direct correlation with heavily populated Black communities and crime. That doesn't mean all Blacks are poor criminals, and it doesn't make him racist.

So no - it's not a correlation for every city with a lot of Black people, however - you can't deny the facts and trends! Don't be so petty to call someone racist for being smart enough to identify a fact.

I feel like Whites have to go to such a large extent to prove they aren't racist. It's just a fact, simply identifying it doesn't make you racist/backwards/redneck.
Jeez, it's 2008--How many times must we go over this? There's a very strong correlation between crime and poverty, and a disproportionate amount of blacks are impoverished inner-city dwellers for a long list of social and historical reasons that are very easy to at least enumerate, if not understand.

So it's easy to be suspicious of someone who points out the correlation between blacks and crime without making the obvious connection with poverty.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:32 AM
 
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Racism is the belief that one race is superior to another, usually involving hatred or discrimination. I didnt see anything that Scraper Enthuiast posted that would label him/her a racist. On the otherhand accusing someone of being a racist for pointing out verifiable facts is dispicable and quite frankly wreaks of insecurity.
I read through quite a few of the guys other posts before coming to the conclusion that he is a racist. He is in fact a paranoid racist, just read his posts. He longs for the days of McCartyhism and segregation, it's really obvious.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:51 AM
 
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The list is a joke.
So can we assume your favorite metro was listed as high crime and/or your least favorite was low crime?
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:55 AM
 
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This is interesting indeed but come on guys let's leave the black and white issue out of this since it will most certainly kill the post.

I would like to hear from those that actually live in these cities/towns to get an accurate rating of the violence, then let us see how that stacks up against this list.

Hmm funny thing most midwesterners know of east st louis, il, but yet the list does not show it unless i missed it, now what does that tell one of this list.
Remember, this is METROS, not CITIES. East St Louis isn't a metro, it is part of the larger St. Louis metro, which includes dozens of areas in the burbs, small twons and countryside with low crime rates.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Iowa, Des Moines Metro
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Jeez, it's 2008--How many times must we go over this? There's a very strong correlation between crime and poverty, and a disproportionate amount of blacks are impoverished inner-city dwellers for a long list of social and historical reasons that are very easy to at least enumerate, if not understand.

So it's easy to be suspicious of someone who points out the correlation between blacks and crime without making the obvious connection with poverty.
Exactly, and you said it yourself - there are a lot of impoverished blacks in many inner cities. Yes crime usually leads off of that poverty. I felt that was needless to say really.
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:48 PM
 
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Exactly, and you said it yourself - there are a lot of impoverished blacks in many inner cities. Yes crime usually leads off of that poverty. I felt that was needless to say really.
Except Scraper Enthusiast doesn't think it's because they are poor, but because they are black.

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Rick, I know that you're simply unable to get your mind around such a simple concept as race, as you probably do not think that such exists. However, for one moment, think about places around the Earth where whites live and where blacks live. Now that we have envisioned those places, what are the conditions? How long have these conditions been this way? Where have most inventions come from? Once you understand this, and come to grips with this reality, you'll understand that socioeconomic status isn't the reason. It is a side-effect.
This is just as oversimplified and idiotic as what caused people to get mad in this thread.

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I read through quite a few of the guys other posts before coming to the conclusion that he is a racist.
Me, too.

I don't think people taking issue with Scraper Enthusiast's statement is at all unwarranted, especially in light of other things he's said in other threads. I think that fact that people let him slide saying this stuff is terrible.

But, Whatever.
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Iowa, Des Moines Metro
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Me, too.

I don't think people taking issue with Scraper Enthusiast's statement is at all unwarranted, especially in light of other things he's said in other threads. I think that fact that people let him slide saying this stuff is terrible.
Really? I don't recall his other posts. This one didn't seem racist to me.
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