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Old 12-15-2019, 07:38 PM
 
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It's just not. Especially when you consider the low voter turn out amongst Hispanics, as Spade said. Most of the votes are coming from the white plurality in those areas.


In South Florida, yeah
But it is. Black people are only 13% of the country, yet obviously they're a politically important voting block.

And the low turnout applies across the board, not just areas that lean right.
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Old 12-15-2019, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Well Texas actually has heavily Hispanic areas that lean red (Midland-Odessa area, Panhandle) while I don't think that's true of anywhere in California.

The southern San Joaquin Valley of California (Kings, Tulare and Kern counties) is majority Hispanic and voted Republican by about a 10% margin in 2016. The electorate is probably less Hispanic than the general population, however - and the Republican lean is far more modest than in west Texas.
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Old 12-15-2019, 08:23 PM
 
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The southern San Joaquin Valley of California (Kings, Tulare and Kern counties) is majority Hispanic and voted Republican by about a 10% margin in 2016. The electorate is probably less Hispanic than the general population, however - and the Republican lean is far more modest than in west Texas.
It would also be interesting to analyze state politics, since the state GOP in Texas seems to be more popular among Hispanics than the federal GOP
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Old 12-15-2019, 08:36 PM
 
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But it is. Black people are only 13% of the country, yet obviously they're a politically important voting block.
It's really really not. And blacks have a higher voter turnout rate than Hispanics.

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And the low turnout applies across the board, not just areas that lean right.
Right, but it's disingenuous to ignore the voting differences between South Texas which is almost entirely Hispanic and West Texas which is mostly white.

If one wants to know how the typical Hispanic Texan votes, they need look no further than the RGV and the Trans Pecos, which are all significantly left leaning. It's that simple
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Old 12-15-2019, 08:42 PM
 
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It's really really not. And blacks have a higher voter turnout rate than Hispanics.



Right, but it's disingenuous to ignore the voting differences between South Texas which is almost entirely Hispanic and West Texas which is mostly white.

If one wants to know how the typical Hispanic Texan votes, they need look no further than the RGV and the Trans Pecos, which are all significantly left leaning. It's that simple
Texas is huge, it is entirely possible that there is intra ethnic voting patterns within ethnicities
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Old 12-15-2019, 08:44 PM
 
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Those cities are all 30-50% Latino, how is that not massive?
Of course areas with right leaning Hispanic population are the exception overall, but they do exist.
Willing to bet there are more Hispanic registered democrats than Hispanic registered republicans in those cities as well.
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Old 12-15-2019, 08:47 PM
 
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It would also be interesting to analyze state politics, since the state GOP in Texas seems to be more popular among Hispanics than the federal GOP

That is also true in Florida, where Miami-Dade County has many voters who choose Republicans for governor and state legislature, but not federal office. The parties tend to be a bit less polarized at the state level than nationally.
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Old 12-15-2019, 08:50 PM
 
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Willing to bet there are more Hispanic registered democrats than Hispanic registered republicans in those cities as well.
Maybe

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That is also true in Florida, where Miami-Dade County has many voters who choose Republicans for governor and state legislature, but not federal office. The parties tend to be a bit less polarized at the state level than nationally.
Makes sense. The governors of both states seem to be much less polarizing than Trump.
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:33 PM
 
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Texas is huge, it is entirely possible that there is intra ethnic voting patterns within ethnicities
That's possible regardless of the size of the state, but the most obvious pattern is quite telling.

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Old 12-15-2019, 10:39 PM
 
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That's possible regardless of the size of the state, but the most obvious pattern is quite telling.
Yep. You see the southern part, how it's all blue? That's probably 75% Hispanic, and they're not fighting over gay rights there.
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