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All of those are the West Coast. Maybe a good start would be anything west of/on the Sierra Nevada mountains? Or west of the Rockies? That’s a good question.
There’s a lot of desert/southwest cities I’d like to count as west coast, but that’s not really fair. I like the west in general.
Yeah, west of the Cascades and Sierra Nevadas would be a good strict definition. Really though, I just consider the entirety of California, Oregon and Washington West Coast. Nevada and Arizona are surely well tied to and influenced by California, but to me, they are still Mountain West.
I'd say pretty much anything in the Pacific time zone qualifies.
I'm ok with this to get more granular, I'd say the western halves of California, Washington and Oregon, though if you said the entirety of all 3 states I'm cool too. I honestly think Vegas and maybe PHoenix is as well.
I think there never really will be an agreed LITERAL definition. There are plenty of agreed loose and/or figurative, symbolic definitions......and reasonable ones....
It really is a matter of perspective and your point of view in terms of where you actually live. When I was living in LA, those that actually lived within a few miles of the coast tended to have a more narrow view of what a West Coaster was. When I lived within 5 minute walking distance of the beach, we thought of ourselves as being more "West Coast" than someone living in Glendale. This narrow point of view seemed to only be applied to others in LA, but if talking in a broader sense to someone living in Phoenix, my (our) point of view would shift to include someone in Glendale, "they were more "West Coast' than someone in Riverside, or Phoenix".
There was time time when you never really thought of Vegas as being "West Coast", now I definitely think it is "West Coast", but it sort of bothers me, how can a place in the desert, 300 miles from the coast be the "West Coast".
Phoenix was definitely NOT WEST COAST, but over time it seems it is now, andi its not even in the PST zone.
As don'tbeliveit suggested, WHO CARES .......it's weird how it had a much more defined meaning, now its a lose "label" and people don't like to be "labeled" especially if the label is considered "bad", but if the "label" is considered "good", people get upset if they are not included in that "label".
Now that Vegas is the West Coast, does that mean LA is now the Desert Mountain West. :-)
Yeah, west of the Cascades and Sierra Nevadas would be a good strict definition. .
Yes this is my definition. I have the old fashion definition that you are a West Coaster if actually do things on the Coast on a regular basis, daily, weekly, or monthly.
Folks in Tahoe rarely go to the coast, and folks in Reno even less so. They are not West Coasters, and don't care to be. In my book, Vegas and Phoenix are definitely not the West Coast, although I get how Vegas is, but really not...... Phoenix never will be. :-)
My Family members/relatives leaned to surf the beaches of NorCal while growing-up in Sacramento, even though its 90 miles away, while our cousins in the Bay Area, rarely even went to the beach nor did anything involving the coast, the water, or its mountains. I actually learned in Hawaii and San Diego and continued the tradition while living in Sacramento.
In Sacramento, we actually make public policy that directly affects people who actually live on the coast and the beach, all 1,000 plus miles of it. It's our beach(es), we care about it, as if it were our River(s).
I think there never really will be an agreed LITERAL definition. There are plenty of agreed loose and/or figurative, symbolic definitions......and reasonable ones....
It really is a matter of perspective and your point of view in terms of where you actually live. When I was living in LA, those that actually lived within a few miles of the coast tended to have a more narrow view of what a West Coaster was. When I lived within 5 minute walking distance of the beach, we thought of ourselves as being more "West Coast" than someone living in Glendale. This narrow point of view seemed to only be applied to others in LA, but if talking in a broader sense to someone living in Phoenix, my (our) point of view would shift to include someone in Glendale, "they were more "West Coast' than someone in Riverside, or Phoenix".
There was time time when you never really thought of Vegas as being "West Coast", now I definitely think it is "West Coast", but it sort of bothers me, how can a place in the desert, 300 miles from the coast be the "West Coast".
Phoenix was definitely NOT WEST COAST, but over time it seems it is now, andi its not even in the PST zone.
As don'tbeliveit suggested, WHO CARES .......it's weird how it had a much more defined meaning, now its a lose "label" and people don't like to be "labeled" especially if the label is considered "bad", but if the "label" is considered "good", people get upset if they are not included in that "label".
Now that Vegas is the West Coast, does that mean LA is now the Desert Mountain West. :-)
Let me correct you. Phoenix is in fact part of the PST for half of the year.
It seems like you really need a "coast" to claim that you are a part of the "coast".
I agree. I think that strictly speaking, "west coast" refers to the states that border the pacific ocean - Cali, Oregon, Wash.
"Western" is a broader geographic & cultural region and in my opinion includes - Cali, Oregon, Wash, Ariz, Nev, NM and Colo.
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