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Old 03-08-2020, 11:28 AM
 
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Metro divisions are trash. Cambridge is a bigger city than Boston by those methods.

MSA is better than CSA though.

Like Seperating Boston and Cambridge is crazy but Providence is not Boston.
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Old 03-08-2020, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Medfid
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Like Seperating Boston and Cambridge is crazy but Providence is not Boston.
And Taunton isn’t Providence.
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Old 03-08-2020, 11:42 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Metro divisions for cities and CSAs for metropolitan areas? They measure different things, but the larger one will likely have more internal variations with the primary city making up a smaller proportion of it than they would in the metropolitan division.
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Old 03-08-2020, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Urban areas are best imo.
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Old 03-08-2020, 12:05 PM
 
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MSA, otherwise, you're combining more than one city.
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Old 03-08-2020, 12:22 PM
 
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MSA, otherwise, you're combining more than one city.
All MSA’s involve more than one city, otherwise it would just be city data.
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Old 03-08-2020, 12:47 PM
 
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All MSA’s involve more than one city, otherwise it would just be city data.
MSA is suburbs, and if some are cities in their own right, then so be it. CSA combines cities that aren't a part of the MSA.
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Old 03-08-2020, 12:53 PM
 
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MSA is suburbs, and if some are cities in their own right, then so be it. CSA combines cities that aren't a part of the MSA.
Sometimes a city is split between two MSA’s. It works for most places most of the time. CSA’s don’t have such outliers.
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Old 03-08-2020, 01:04 PM
 
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Sometimes a city is split between two MSA’s. It works for most places most of the time. CSA’s don’t have such outliers.
The problem with CSAs is that they get the overlap and then some.

Like Harvard, MA is as much a Boston suburb as Boxborough, MA despite being in Worcester’s MSA. However Athol, MA which is in Worcester’s MSA is absolutely freaking not a suburb of Boston (and honestly it’s not really a suburb of Worcester either).
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Old 03-08-2020, 01:10 PM
 
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Orange and Riverside aren't even the same city on a MSA level. Riverside is inland empire and very far from core LA like Sacramento to Bay Area
Not by a longshot.

Riverside / San Bernadino is highly connected by commutes...that's why it's part of the CSA. It's also much closer. And development is continuous.

Same in the business community. A company would be much more likely to have one office, warehouse, etc., cover the whole area, vs. separate operations in each city.

On the broader topic, CSAs do have problems. Sometimes they envelop other full-service cities like the Baltimore area or Providence. Other times they make sense, like greater LA or SF.

Part of that's the role these places play. A big suburban area like Orange County exists because it's in LA's orbit...put differently it's defined by its roles in a larger city. Baltimore would be similar regardless.
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