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No, it's an inferiority complex. Always telling yourself that you and your region is better than another region and there people for NO good reason at all is an inferiority complex.
Wow, you are so full of yourself, which is typical of psued-intellectual types. If anything the Bay Area is a bubble of ignorance. It is has one of the LEAST diverse electorates of any major metropolitan area. When people talk about diversity they sure as hell aren't talking about diverse values, opinions, and viewpoints b/c most people there think and vote the same way. It's so easy sit around in some ideological circle jerk with others like yourself agreeing with each other and getting a false sense that you are right and everyone else is wrong. Sf and Berkeley do an amazing job at that; yeah a city where 97% of the people vote for the same presidential candidate is "diversity". I love it when people from the Bay Area talk about how they are more "aware, informed, intelligent, ect.." than everyone else to justify their narrow viewpoints. The "Smug Alert" South Park episode pretty much hit the nail on the head when it came to that BS. At least in Southern CA there are more diversity when it comes to values, thoughts, opinions, ect....
Conde Nast appeals to certain types of people and of course those types love SF, that magazine is hardly a reflection of the average tourist in the US. But it's not the most visited city in America OR California by a long shot. Both LA and SD get more visitors than SF. I'm not saying SF is not a great tourist destination but it's not the best.
Funny story about out of staters and their opinions on SF and SD. This past February I took 4 of my friends from the Bay Area and 5 of my friends from San Diego to New Orleans for Mardi Gras. And whenever people asked us where we were from we'd say the Bay Area and San Diego. Almost all the people said nice, complimenting things about SD but very few said much about the Bay Area. They didn't say anything negative,but nothing really positive either. This drove my Bay Area friends nuts and they started saying SD sucks, ect... then I'd ask why and the typical response was "the bay is just better". Very typical of an INFERIORITY COMPLEX. It bugged the hell out of them people there had a better opinion of SD than SF.
Man you are really arrogant and full of yourself and totally typical of the Bay Area stereotype people hate.
I agree with everything you said, that guys attitude is what has turned me off to SF, most people I have met from there are like that. By the way, he forgot to mention and subsequently try to rationalize why SF now has a higher crime rate than both SD and LA!
No, it's an inferiority complex. Always telling yourself that you and your region is better than another region and there people for NO good reason at all is an inferiority complex.
Why would we feel inferior to a place that is beneath us in almost every imaginable measure?
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If anything the Bay Area is a bubble of ignorance.
We have nothing on SoCal when it comes to racial tension and racial and socio-economic polarization.
[quote]It is has one of the LEAST diverse electorates of any major metropolitan area. When people talk about diversity they sure as hell aren't talking about diverse values, opinions, and viewpoints b/c most people there think and vote the same way.
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It's so easy sit around in some ideological circle jerk with others like yourself agreeing with each other and getting a false sense that you are right and everyone else is wrong.
Where the hell have you been the last 7.5 years? We were right and people on the other side of aisle were indeed WRONG.
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SF and Berkeley do an amazing job at that; yeah a city where 97% of the people vote for the same presidential candidate is "diversity".
When your right, your right. Highly Educated people tend to think the same way.
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I love it when people from the Bay Area talk about how they are more "aware, informed, intelligent, ect.."
In many ways, we are. And usually about 10-20 years later, the rest of the country finally catches up.
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At least in Southern CA there are more diversity when it comes to values, thoughts, opinions, ect....
And that's really working out isnt it?*not*
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And whenever people asked us where we were from we'd say the Bay Area and San Diego. Almost all the people said nice, complimenting things about SD but very few said much about the Bay Area.
That's funny cause when I lived in the Upper West Side of Manhattan, people gushed over San Francisco all the time. in fact, the main line they would say was "That's the only place in California worth living in".
Perhaps its a matter of what kind of person your talking to.
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Man you are really arrogant and full of yourself
Thanks again for yet another compliment, forgive me if I dont return the favor, its just that I dont engage in such maturity.
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and totally typical of the Bay Area stereotype people hate.
Uh, anyway,
next time your in Walnut Creek, I highly recommend eating at Va De Vi, a great restaurant there. The food is divine.
It's always been amusing to me when San Franciscans think their little home town is on par with cities like New York, London and Paris.
Actually a good many Londoners and Parisians think that too.
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SF is well known to tourists and foreigners thanks to its natural beauty and famous sights, which I think it is quite similar to the case of Sydney. Again, this is nothing more than just a worldwide survey about the world's most favorite cities.
Unfortunately, American scholars do not think SF shares the same caliber as the big 3..New York, Chicago & LA. Therefore, I find it's just ridiculous and full of ignorance if someone thinks SF is on par with NY, London, Paris when it still has not reached the level of Chicago & LA.
New York, Chicago, Los Angeles (http://www.upress.umn.edu/books/a/abulughod_ny.html - broken link)
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Actually a good many Londoners and Parisians think that too.
San Francisco has a lot of wealth. We all know that. For God's sake, do you need to post a new list every few days that is some kind of variation on the same theme. "Cities with most millionaires", "Cities with most billionaires", "Cities with most houses valued over $1 million", "Cities with the most people obsessed with rich people"...
I'd have to agree with this. rnc - you said what everyone else was thinking.
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When your right, your right. Highly Educated people tend to think the same way.
Speaking of intelligence and a high level of education, it's spelled "you're."
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Why would we feel inferior to a place that is beneath us in almost every imaginable measure?
We have nothing on SoCal when it comes to racial tension and racial and socio-economic polarization.
Really, then what the do you think is going on in Richmond, Oakland, Hunter's Point, Bayview, ect... ?
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Where the hell have you been the last 7.5 years? We were right and people on the other side of aisle were indeed WRONG.
wrong about what? the war? Bush? Yeah b/c the Bay Area was the only place where people were against the war or Bush......
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When your right, your right. Highly Educated people tend to think the same way.
In many ways, we are. And usually about 10-20 years later, the rest of the country finally catches up.
And that's really working out isnt it?*not*
haha, this is too funny. It's like your a walking stereotype. The Bay Area doesn't rank as having the best quality of life or is ever rated as the best place to live in the country. You still have crime, poverty, traffic, pollution, congestion, affordable housing crisis, ect.... like everyone else. So how exactly are you ahead of everyone?
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Perhaps its a matter of what kind of person your talking to.
I'm sure it is, don't really care to associate with people that have such a snobby attitude.
Unfortunately, American scholars do not think SF shares the same caliber as the big 3..New York, Chicago & LA.
New York, Chicago, Los Angeles (http://www.upress.umn.edu/books/a/abulughod_ny.html - broken link)
But that's just it, SF's is far stronger globally than nationally. Thanks for confirming what I've already said at least 10 times before.
Speaking of intelligence and a high level of education, it's spelled "you're."
You have figured it out, we're not(quite) Gods after all.
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