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Old 10-07-2020, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade View Post
Because hes there often (he was) and likes the city???? Self Explanatory. An unofficial mixtape as opposed to an official mixtape? lol Mixtapes aren't music. Goalpost.

I know many NYC rappers who have spent free time and/or have friends and affiliates in Boston and environs French Montana (Brockton), Chief Keef (Mission Hill), 50 Cent (Brockton), Fabulous (Dorchester),
Jim Jones(Dorchester) Dave East (Cambridge, attends celtics games sometimes)
Babyface Ray, Mozzy and Joe Buden. (mentioned Boston and the balck culture several times in his podcast) I wouldnt expect you to know this because you don't really know anything at all about Boston let alone its hip hop or urban culture.. Your buggin if you think the DJ was like "yo make a mixtape about Boston" and he was like "yea aight" lmao. Reeeeeeaach

Yea black banks were randomply assorted not in order. Doesn't make the gentrification list correct. And its also just lazy list making.
Of course rappers go to Boston, it's a major city. Never said they didn't. But press runs, paid features from Boston artist and stops on tours is something rappers do ANY AND EVERYWHERE. They'll show love to Podunk South Carolina if they were doing a show down there and getting paid. But it's a clear difference in going to a city and politicking like most rappers do anywhere and going out your way showing appreciation for a city that you genuinely admire and are not from. That's the pop culture appeal people are talking about that Houston has for a good chunk of Black America. If Houston didn't have that appeal at least to a specific demographic so many artist from any and everywhere wouldn't go out there way to dedicate songs and video sets to Houston. Difference


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Ns2IZtouk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shHNUwhs23k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3YV1hzALHs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILRlBTPLm2k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gqHDqxqbHY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EIPjDZAOsk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Camp8saZd7Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiCT7NCP6BY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w_bh2SuCvE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqKwmak5e8M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZyGdjk1QVc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TLPmuYJXgA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yk9kIDpM1I

I can go on and on and on
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Old 10-07-2020, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Of course rappers go to Boston, it's a major city. Never said they didn't. But press runs, paid features from Boston artist and stops on tours is something rappers do ANY AND EVERYWHERE. They'll show love to Podunk South Carolina if they were doing a show down there and getting paid. But it's a clear difference in going to a city and politicking like most rappers do anywhere and going out your way showing appreciation for a city that you genuinely admire and are not from. That's the pop culture appeal people are talking about that Houston has for a good chunk of Black America. If Houston didn't have that appeal at least to a specific demographic so many artist from any and everywhere wouldn't go out there way to dedicate songs and video sets to Houston. Difference


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Ns2IZtouk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shHNUwhs23k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3YV1hzALHs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILRlBTPLm2k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gqHDqxqbHY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EIPjDZAOsk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Camp8saZd7Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiCT7NCP6BY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w_bh2SuCvE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqKwmak5e8M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZyGdjk1QVc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TLPmuYJXgA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yk9kIDpM1I

I can go on and on and on
Rappers don’t travel if it doesn’t make money, just let’s get that out the way. The only tour stop I out in there was Fabolous but he’s definitely been around in Boston in the inner city politicking since he first came out. I just couldn’t find a video. I know he made music with Benzino.

Mainly my point is your reaching if you think a DJ asked him to make as mixtape shot Boston lol-that’s something entirely different than what your talking about. I just wanted to make that clear, no one is comparing Boston to Houston in hip hop but you. But you’re trying to talk about the city and rap and you have no knowledge of that really. Or if artists like Boston or not. I’m talking about several different forms of communication or interaction with Boston and you’re trying to categorize it as all the same for the sake of your argument.
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Old 10-07-2020, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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You forgot about my boy Dizzie Rascal

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Old 10-07-2020, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Also you forgot Shaquille O’Neal. I’m surprised Shaq actually kilt it here. Also mentions having a Sugar Land mansion in the song.

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Old 10-07-2020, 10:13 PM
 
Location: OC
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Rappers don’t travel if it doesn’t make money, just let’s get that out the way. The only tour stop I out in there was Fabolous but he’s definitely been around in Boston in the inner city politicking since he first came out. I just couldn’t find a video. I know he made music with Benzino.

Mainly my point is your reaching if you think a DJ asked him to make as mixtape shot Boston lol-that’s something entirely different than what your talking about. I just wanted to make that clear, no one is comparing Boston to Houston in hip hop but you. But you’re trying to talk about the city and rap and you have no knowledge of that really. Or if artists like Boston or not. I’m talking about several different forms of communication or interaction with Boston and you’re trying to categorize it as all the same for the sake of your argument.
I'm surprised they're not wearing Houston Texans jerseys.
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Old 10-07-2020, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, JAPAN
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Sad to see yet another thread devolve into a hip-hop battle with dozens of YouTube clips no one is watching -- and somehow these always involve Boston for some reason.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Sad to see yet another thread devolve into a hip-hop battle with dozens of YouTube clips no one is watching -- and somehow these always involve Boston for some reason.
1. that because im a hip hop fanatic

2. if you dont understand why this is relevant to the culture of Houston/culture in general that on you at this point. Its 2020, just because you think its irrelevant -well that just doesn't jive with modern day pop culture.

3. If I comment on hip hop or black culture its a given someone is going to bring up Boston perceived lack of either one. I didn't bring up Boston, PSwag did. Then Redlion did. I try to keep it not about Boston (my focus was Toronto/Houston) but at the same time, I'm not going to allow people to just say whatever based out of their own ignorance, opinon is fine-ignorance is not. Basically, in being from Boston the unwritten rule is I am not to comment on black culture or hip hop. Well according to some people. (The only people who cant tell you how popular Houston is live in Houston I guess-ironic).... So when I bring up evidence to the contrary about Boston it becomes a masssive race to the bottom discredit what I'm saying. Comes with the territory, though so im used to it. Redlion and Pswag are basicly like "how DARE you -youre from Boston!" As though that should somehow effect the validity of my opinion on pop culture, black culture or hip hop culture, all of which is MY culture. Its a deflection tactic.

Thats why you see what you see this so often. Dudes end up posting silly videos of Jay Z on a train in houston-as though hes never ridden train o walked around the hood in Boston. Just based out of their own perceptions of Boston and what they think does or doesnt happent there... Ijust have no problems checking people...


So I'll post a video like this and its not valid because...hes not on the train or something else trivial. Its a hoot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVAykBHxq1Q


Hearing Beantown and Htown menioned in the same breath might make a few posters have an aneurysim. This must mena I think Boston is on Houstons hip hop level...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjduttenwaE

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Old 10-08-2020, 11:17 AM
 
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I think all of the back-and-forth about Houston's pop culture appeal, or the lack thereof, from a New Englander's perspective kinda gets to the heart of the issue, which is to say Houston's pop culture appeal is largely regional in nature, probably mostly restricted to the South Central/Southeastern U.S. My home turf, in a broader sense, is the Carolinas and Georgia, and you hear buzz about Houston in Atlanta as there is a decent amount of interchange between the two, but that's as far as Houston's appeal goes in that corner of the Southeast which is dominated by Atlanta in terms of pop culture. You hear little to nothing about Texas in general in the Carolinas which has much closer proximity to East Coast urban regions (Atlanta, Florida, DC, etc.). So I can understand how someone from Boston can see how Houston comes up short here while at the same time, a Houstonian is well aware of how large of a magnet Houston really is and the extent and nature of its pop culture appeal. Essentially, there's enough happening there for Houston to have broad appeal regionally, which actually covers a large amount of territory, but not enough for it to have broad appeal nationally so it doesn't stick out for people in other parts of the country.
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Old 10-08-2020, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I think all of the back-and-forth about Houston's pop culture appeal, or the lack thereof, from a New Englander's perspective kinda gets to the heart of the issue, which is to say Houston's pop culture appeal is largely regional in nature, probably mostly restricted to the South Central/Southeastern U.S. My home turf, in a broader sense, is the Carolinas and Georgia, and you hear buzz about Houston in Atlanta as there is a decent amount of interchange between the two, but that's as far as Houston's appeal goes in that corner of the Southeast which is dominated by Atlanta in terms of pop culture. You hear little to nothing about Texas in general in the Carolinas which has much closer proximity to East Coast urban regions (Atlanta, Florida, DC, etc.). So I can understand how someone from Boston can see how Houston comes up short here while at the same time, a Houstonian is well aware of how large of a magnet Houston really is and the extent and nature of its pop culture appeal. Essentially, there's enough happening there for Houston to have broad appeal regionally, which actually covers a large amount of territory, but not enough for it to have broad appeal nationally so it doesn't stick out for people in other parts of the country.
I'd agree. I know Houston exists and does its thing in Hip Hop and I respect it but its just not enough to appeal to someone fromm Boston when there NYC DC ATL Philly Chicago Miami all closer to me.

I'm also way too culturally distant form Houston/Black Houstonians. I can lsiten to people form NJ/NYC talk and its just much more familiar in terms of tone, manners (lack thereof) slang, roadways, ethnicity.. and it connects with me more. Atlanta too even. But I think the value of perspective from people from the far away is just as important to hear and understand. It's not any less valid. It's just a perspective you're probably not getting in your region.

But idk Redlion says he be everywhere. Generally, I think Houstons appeal is more so to blacks/Latinos in the midwest and the west. Once you get to New Orleans its seems like that's when the south-central/midwest and west starts to come together (for black people). The furthest north being Chicago, furthest being NOLA and furthest west/NW being Oakland.

Never have I ever heard any of my people in CT Jersey NYC MD Philly talk about going to Houston for any reason. I did know a friend of a friend who was fromm Houston and came to Boston for grad school and eft. Thats it. Not to say its not important i just don't think the reah is quite as wide as you'd think. To a lot of us up here Houston was "new" to rap in 2005. Doesnt mean we were right though.
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Old 10-08-2020, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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In all seriousness, my original point was Houston’s pop appeal to Black America is much more of a thing than some ppl are giving it credit to. I didn’t proclaim it has a top tier appeal or anything. Just hey it’s there on some level. When that was initially brought up(not by me) others went out their way to downplay the thought of Houston being even that popular among a certain demographic. I know for me I’ve already stated why Houston isn’t on Miami or Atlanta’s level in that realm. Yes, as a city it doesn’t have as much to offer in comparison from a film and tv perspective. It’s much easier to create a series or film when you have cities with notable characteristics like a NYC/LA/SF/CHI/MIA/NO. As a photographer and filmmaker myself I completely get that. But there’s other outside factors as well that ppl downplayed in here. If your on the outside looking in you have no clue on how huge incentives are when it comes to location. Or how local government can help or hurt film production. Interest in film and tv locations can be manufactured.

That was my initial point
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