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Old 10-04-2020, 10:30 PM
 
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Definitely not the case, we have our fair share of homeless.
I heard of Salt Lake being described as like a Mormon San Francisco or Portland so probably not that low
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Old 10-08-2020, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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There are certainly homeless people in Oklahoma, so it's a wonder someone got an idea that it isn't a big problem. In Oklahoma City, under an interstate overpass church services are held for them every Sunday.

To quote a OKC FB friend who volunteers to clean up messes the homeless leave: "I noticed this located behind a business owners store. This owner faces this every week from the homeless. He calls the police and they make them leave and they are back again. The owner is responsible for the clean up or get a $300.00 fine. I just helped the owner clean this up a couple of weeks ago. It's a sad situation all the way around."
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Old 10-09-2020, 01:11 PM
 
Location: South St Louis
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“Homeless” is a vague word. As someone mentioned before, unvoluntarily living outdoors is not the only criteria. In most cities, people staying in shelters are also considered homeless. My own state’s definition for homeless used to be “anyone living in temporary living situation”. So people who were staying with a friend or relative, even over an extended period of time, were also considered homeless. Those without a permanent place of residence tend to be very mobile and difficult to track. These are a few reasons why it’s virtually impossible to judge how many homeless there are in any given place.
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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I grew up in a military town in TN and definitely saw few homeless. There's 1 shelter in our town and they only allow you to stay for a max of 2 weeks without a job. I would see like 1 or 2 people a month wheeling around a cart. But no tent cities as far as I knew. My hometown isn't exactly conducive to conditions being comfortable for being homeless. What I've noticed is that the homeless will eventually go where the resources are and where they won't be harassed for camping out in their car or in a tent.

I can't speak for all of the SE but in the areas I've been down south the homeless tend to be more hidden and are far less aggressive in panhandling than those in say NYC or Seattle.
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:49 PM
 
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I would think like Detroit, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Buffalo and any cities near them
Never been to Minneapolis, have ya?
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Old 10-16-2020, 12:09 AM
 
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Never been to Minneapolis, have ya?
No, but I’d say a bit less than SF. Now I would imagine a little more due to what has been going on, but probably not a serious amount, but one more is one too many.
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Old 10-16-2020, 08:15 AM
 
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Homelessness is the US national shame and a clear indicator of just how misguided and unsuccessful we are as a nation at meeting people's basic needs.

It's incredible how the homeless population is increasing year over year even though at any one time there are something like 20 million vacant and habitable homes. We can try to move to nice suburbs and rural areas so we can pay less taxes and pretend like they are not our fellow Americans and human beings but it gnaws at me whenever I see a homeless person. I think of the Sermon on the Mount and remind myself of what a poor excuse for a Christian I am. I keep the shirt on my back and don't give it to my fellow man, thank you very much, and for some reason my charitable contributions don't ease my conscience. I must be the only one though. Maybe I am a "socialist" for caring and being willing to pay more in taxes to do something about.

It doesn't matter though. I can't recall Biden mentioning homelessness as something he wants to deal with. Trump only blames the victims and has not made any proposal to do anything about it in his four years. Thank God we all got a tax break though so we can all feel better about not being one of those poor homeless wretches.

So if you want to live somewhere without homeless people go to any wealthy suburb. You can pretend that everything is AOK. Out of sight, out of mind, right?
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Old 10-16-2020, 01:01 PM
 
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Homelessness is the US national shame and a clear indicator of just how misguided and unsuccessful we are as a nation at meeting people's basic needs.

It's incredible how the homeless population is increasing year over year even though at any one time there are something like 20 million vacant and habitable homes. We can try to move to nice suburbs and rural areas so we can pay less taxes and pretend like they are not our fellow Americans and human beings but it gnaws at me whenever I see a homeless person. I think of the Sermon on the Mount and remind myself of what a poor excuse for a Christian I am. I keep the shirt on my back and don't give it to my fellow man, thank you very much, and for some reason my charitable contributions don't ease my conscience. I must be the only one though. Maybe I am a "socialist" for caring and being willing to pay more in taxes to do something about.

It doesn't matter though. I can't recall Biden mentioning homelessness as something he wants to deal with. Trump only blames the victims and has not made any proposal to do anything about it in his four years. Thank God we all got a tax break though so we can all feel better about not being one of those poor homeless wretches.

So if you want to live somewhere without homeless people go to any wealthy suburb. You can pretend that everything is AOK. Out of sight, out of mind, right?
Exactly. The vast majority of homelessness is due to drug addiction and mental disorder, and in most cases, it’s been my experiences that the homeless individual either does not want assistance or wants money for drugs and alcohol. You can try to be a good Christian all you want but it isn’t going to register a blip on the radar. Don’t you want to also prevent murders from happening as a Christian? Why don’t you expend yourself trying to eradicate people killing people? It’s because it’s a losing battle. So what do you do instead? You move to an area which you don’t have to confront it.

My point is, please do not attempt to act self-righteous. Your “I’m a Christian” spiel is very tired and wholly irrelevant.
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