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Old 10-16-2020, 06:54 AM
 
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I second the Kalamazoo/Grand Rapids area......I have a friend who just relocated to the Portage Michigan area for a job opportunity.
Nice and this doesn't hurt in regards to families interested in the city: https://www.kalamazoopromise.com/
https://www.kalamazoopromise.com/home.php
https://www.kalamazoopromise.com/upl...e%20201410.pdf

Ironically, in terms of cities mentioned with a similar program, Buffalo, Syracuse and Greensboro/Guilford County are a part of this program: https://sayyestoeducation.org/

Cleveland also has a community wide chapter: https://sayyestoeducation.org/where-we-work/

Pittsburgh has this program: https://pittsburghpromise.org/

Lansing: https://lansingpromise.org/

Grand Rapids: https://www.challengescholars.org/

Tulsa: https://www.tulsacc.edu/admissions-a...tulsa-achieves

So, this is another example of something that could attract people to said cities.

Here is a full list of cities with similar programs: https://citiesofpromise.com/
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Old 10-16-2020, 08:19 AM
 
Location: OC
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Syracuse, Buffalo, Rochester..they all got in common that they're in the Gloom Belt of the U.S.:





Sunniest places in red, least sunny in blue. "Four Season Weather" is real estate booster lingo for "it's grim 8 months of the year".
I love seasons, but good point. As Tosh said "I love seasons that's why I got rid of the 2 crappiest ones."




I think Grand Rapids could be the next big thing.
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Old 10-16-2020, 09:02 AM
 
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I see lighter blues along the shore of Lake Ontario, which includes parts of Metro Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse - the same lighter blue as Northern Virginia, Boise, and Nashville.
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I caught that too.
It's referred to as a lake shadow.

The relatively cooler air blowing in off the lake limits the extent of rising air conducive for cloud development. However, this is mainly a thing in the Summer time.

Link below:

https://www.weather.gov/bgm/WeatherI...keShadowBreeze
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Old 10-16-2020, 09:15 AM
 
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I love seasons, but good point. As Tosh said "I love seasons that's why I got rid of the 2 crappiest ones."




I think Grand Rapids could be the next big thing.
Keep in mind that Grand Rapids also gets lake effect snow, which is pretty fluffy anyway. So, it appears that snow isn't necessarily as much of a deterrent as people think it is in regards to the growth of that area.

Also, to clarify, much of the higher snowfall totals for Great Lakes areas are associated with snowbelts that go towards the east. So, for instance, when you see that information about Syracuse or Buffalo in terms of high snowfall totals, the highest totals are in the portion of the Syracuse area to the north of the city in Oswego County/west of the Tug Hill Plateau and for the Buffalo area, south of the city/east of Lake Erie(same for NW PA and parts of NE Ohio). Same in regards to parts of NW Indiana/Western Michigan east of Lake Michigan and Northern Wisconsin/the Upper Peninsula of Michigan/nearby areas of Ontario east of Lake Superior. So, the higher totals are actually largely away from the cities

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Old 10-16-2020, 09:31 AM
 
Location: OC
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Keep in mind that Grand Rapids also gets lake effect snow, which is pretty fluffy anyway. So, it appears that snow isn't necessarily as much of a deterrent as people think it is in regards to the growth of that area.
Right now, one of the only things I don't like about OC is it doesn't snow.
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Old 10-16-2020, 09:40 AM
 
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Huntsville is a guess of mine as well. Chattanooga also.
I don't know about employment prospects in Chattanooga, but the scenery there is just out of this world, jaw dropping beautiful during the summer. Simply the most scenic natural setting of any US city I've been to, at least tied with San Fran. And I say this as someone who lived in Southern California for twenty plus years.

At least it has tremendous potential as a tourist destination. The waterfront is amazingly well done and very nicely revamped. The Downtown has been thoroughly renewed and is a very lively place, it feels like the Downtown of a larger city than the mere 500k that live in Greater Chattanooga. Chattanooga pulls more than its weight.
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:05 AM
 
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I don't know about employment prospects in Chattanooga, but the scenery there is just out of this world, jaw dropping beautiful during the summer. Simply the most scenic natural setting of any US city I've been to, at least tied with San Fran. And I say this as someone who lived in Southern California for twenty plus years.

At least it has tremendous potential as a tourist destination. The waterfront is amazingly well done and very nicely revamped. The Downtown has been thoroughly renewed and is a very lively place, it feels like the Downtown of a larger city than the mere 500k that live in Greater Chattanooga. Chattanooga pulls more than its weight.
Chattanooga is home to Volkswagen's NA manufacturing operations.

Also, it benefits from being 2 hours north of Atlanta, especially since Atlanta is sprawling in that direction.
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Rochester is notably, much notably, less gloomy than Syracuse or Buffalo.
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Old 10-16-2020, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Rochester is notably, much notably, less gloomy than Syracuse or Buffalo.
There are a lot of microclimates in the area, and weather can vary dramatically on any given day in different parts of each metro. 10 to 20 degree temperature differences (hills, valleys, lakeshore), lake effect clouds, snow, and rain. The northern parts of Metro Buffalo are sunnier and get 1/4 the lake effect snow/rain/clouds in the fall and winter months compared to the southern parts of the Metro. You can't paint the whole area with the same broad brush. Rochester and Syracuse have comparable variables.
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Old 10-16-2020, 12:15 PM
 
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Cincinnati and Cleveland.

Arguably Columbus and Pittsburgh have already been discovered.

Others mentioned Detroit and Buffalo. I agree, along with Milwaukee.

Midwestern cities have great bones, but are saddled with legacy costs. Those costs will dissipate as older residents pass on.
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