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Old 11-19-2020, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Well, the Pikes Peak area is the driest section of mountains in CO. That means you have to drive 2-3 hours to snowboard (and I 70 sucks on weekends), but I could go out tomorrow and hike to the top of it in hiking boots. SLC is hands down better if snowboarding is a big deal vs hiking / dirtbiking or other non snow activities. The Wasatch get a lot more precipitation than the Pikes Peak area (which is basically between hwy 285 and hwy 50).

The other difference is the Wasatch are the playground for most all of Utah while the Pikes Peak area is basically COSs playground, most people from Denver or out of state go to other ranges. The back side can turn into no mans land pretty quick. I don't know what level of development you want, there's pros and cons to wild space. Also the Wasatch are more traditional mountain scenery. The Pikes Peak area is all underlain by a crumbly pink granite and it's a strange topography, it's definitely unique, unlike other parts of the west. Definitely go on google maps and look at some pictures from Devils Head or McCurdy Mountain to see what I'm talking about.

Colorado Springs is definitely diverse, much more so than Denver as the military brings people from everywhere. The military can also bring some rough edges as well though. In Denver, no one went to church but their parents back east did, they now do spin classes Sunday morning. In COS, they go to the mega church or the Wiccan center or wherever. There's a lot of evangelicals, but they are still a minority, though a vocal one. COS also hates taxes.
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Old 11-19-2020, 08:01 AM
 
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Salt Lake City!
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Old 11-20-2020, 04:56 PM
 
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Of course all the people that don’t live in SLC are making SLC sound like some ultra religious conservative city when it’s not. I’ve been in SLC around 5 years and it’s not been an issue at all, SLC proper is ~20% mormon. They are generally nice people and great neighbors, you also will have no idea who is and who isn’t and it doesn’t matter anyway. SL county is Blue leaning and SLC is Solidly liberal like most the cities you listed. SLC has a large airport very close to downtown and definitely beats Denver for outdoor recreation IMO.

Anyways, I’ve loved it here and you really can’t find a much better city for outdoor recreation.
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Old 11-24-2020, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Cannes
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Will check Carson City. Really digging SLT, reminds of Calgary, Canada.
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Old 11-24-2020, 07:43 PM
 
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For those of you so scared of those scary Christians and Mormons, lol: They're some of the most kind, accepting people I've met where I live and throughout my travels across the nation. Though they believe what they believe, they are overall very live-and-let live, friendly to anyone, and law abiding. As far as prothletising, it simply doesn't even remotely come close to the "prothletising" that many (but not all) liberal minded people give anyone who doesn't think rank-n-file as they do. True "diversity" really doesn't exist and is far from live-and-let live. Go to nearly any college campus and experience for yourself. While huge numbers of liberal universities fight tooth and nail to keep Conservative speakers from coming to their campuses, Liberty U. (which is Christian) INVITED Bernie Sanders to speak at their campus during his campaign in 2016. Even though they greatly disagree with him, they listened and applauded his coming. All of the rioting, looting, calls for defunding police, and violence that has taken place has done so in so-called "progressive" metros and cities. These are facts that can't even be argued. Pretentiously and self-righteously demeaning someone for not having personal beliefs like yours is the height of hypocrisy, intolerance, and ignorance. Clearly, this won't fly well with most in C-D land, which is fine. But, really, if anyone can't even bear the thought of even living in the same city as religious people, it would be better for all involved for you to live with others of like mind, as opposed to the virtue-signaling "diversity" so many on here claim to treasure so greatly. You can't say you value diversity, then make very intolerant and bigoted remarks, cherry picking who is worthy of tolerance and who isn't. THAT is the true test of ones tolerance.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Cannes
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Alright folks, i will be moving to scottsdale/mesa area. I was really tempting to move to SLC but decided to be closer to California. Now i red somewhere that taxes are cheaper in Mesa and i would be better off living in Mesa( somewhere close to dtw scottsdale) than Scottsdale itself. Any thoughts
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Old 12-09-2020, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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Why is Reno out? It has zero state income taxes, low property taxes, no rain, sunshine over 300 days per year, only a 4-hour drive back (or a short 45 min flight) to the Bay Area to visit relatives, real estate half or less than SF, and is an outdoor enthusiast dream - plenty of hiking, and lakes and mountains, and Lake Tahoe is only 40 minutes away. Sounds like it fits everything that you said you were looking for.
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Old 12-09-2020, 11:36 AM
 
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Why is Reno out? It has zero state income taxes, low property taxes, no rain, sunshine over 300 days per year, only a 4-hour drive back (or a short 45 min flight) to the Bay Area to visit relatives, real estate half or less than SF, and is an outdoor enthusiast dream - plenty of hiking, and lakes and mountains, and Lake Tahoe is only 40 minutes away. Sounds like it fits everything that you said you were looking for.
The OP also mentioned shopping and bars being important.

I imagine what Reno offers in these categories pales in comparison to what Scottsdale/Tempe offer.
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Old 12-09-2020, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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It has shopping and plenty of bars. Pre-Covid shutdowns, it was a 24-hour town, with very few alcohol restrictions. Free drinks at all Casinos (if you are gambling). For shopping, it has a mall like most cities, an outlet mall too, and other strip malls with stores. Also, it is so close to the Bay Area there, you could do a shopping day trip if you wanted.
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Old 12-09-2020, 11:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Alright folks, i will be moving to scottsdale/mesa area. I was really tempting to move to SLC but decided to be closer to California. Now i red somewhere that taxes are cheaper in Mesa and i would be better off living in Mesa( somewhere close to dtw scottsdale) than Scottsdale itself. Any thoughts
To Southern California you’ll be closer, but Phoenix isn’t going to be any closer to San Francisco than Salt Lake City.
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