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^^^This post definitely helps one to make the argument thar UA is not the best measure of a city/region's size.
Kinda realized that too myself.
UA only takes in the physical city. MSA takes in the account of the city's influence (ie how many people commute to the center). I just wished that county borders weren't used to define the MSA.
I know people who live outside a city's UA but still definitely in the greater area.
Which Urbanized Areas (UA, not MSA) do you think should be combined. I think...
Riverside/SB with the rest of the LA area
SF/Oakland and San Jose
Orlando and Kissimmee
Raleigh and Durham
Greensboro, High Point, and Winston/Salem
Charlotte with Gastonia and Concord
Greenville and Spartanburg
What other ones?
Charlotte, Gastonia, and Concord are in the same MSA already.
Pendleton is a pretty big break between the two. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually the route along the 15 continue to develop to the point where the UAs could be linked that way, bit that will be a few decades away.
I don't think UA's are allowed to cross MSA borders, so it doesn't fix the problems of places like the Bay Are and LA where the census divides the metro into multiple MSAs.
MSA does counties which is usually pretty inaccurate as a representation of the actual metro area (I mean, does anyone actually commute from Emmitsburg to DC?)
I always feel like I'm leaving a city's "greater area" when I leave the urbanized area.
People definitely commute from Emmitsburg to DC. It is 1 hour and 20 minutes away. People also definitely commute from Charles Town, WV to DC. It is 1 hour and 20 minutes away too. MARC, Maryland commuter rail line operates from Martinsburg, WV to DC.
People definitely commute from Emmitsburg to DC. It is 1 hour and 20 minutes away. People also definitely commute from Charles Town, WV to DC. It is 1 hour and 20 minutes away too. MARC, Maryland commuter rail line operates from Martinsburg, WV to DC.
I did kind change my mind after making that comment. Plus there's probably even commuters from Hagerstown (not many) but that's not in the MSA. Also, I can probably see St Mary's County joining the DC MSA in the future.
Which Urbanized Areas (UA, not MSA) do you think should be combined. I think...
Riverside/SB with the rest of the LA area
SF/Oakland and San Jose
Orlando and Kissimmee
Raleigh and Durham Greensboro, High Point, and Winston/Salem Charlotte with Gastonia and Concord
Greenville and Spartanburg
What other ones?
Greensboro and High Point... but not Winston-Salem.
Which Urbanized Areas (UA, not MSA) do you think should be combined. I think...
Riverside/SB with the rest of the LA area
SF/Oakland and San Jose
Orlando and Kissimmee
Raleigh and Durham
Greensboro, High Point, and Winston/Salem
Charlotte with Gastonia and Concord
Greenville and Spartanburg
What other ones?
I don't think that all UAs within the same MSA/CSA should be combined on that basis alone. Now most of the urbanized Bay Area should be a single UA for sure. Concord's UA should be added to Charlotte's but for now, a case can still be made for Gastonia retaining its own but that will certainly change with more development coming to western Mecklenburg/eastern Gaston counties. Spartanburg should continue to be separate from Greenville but Mauldin-Simlsonville should absolutely be absorbed into Greenville. Greensboro and High Point forming a single UA is feasible but Winston-Salem stands apart.
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