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Old 01-24-2021, 11:37 AM
 
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Sadly, with the crime rising, it's no longer safe (no pun intended!) to consider NYC as one of the safest cities for walkable lifestyle.

Chime in, which cities are the safest now that the landscape of violent crime is changing?
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Old 01-24-2021, 11:48 AM
 
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^It still may be one of them due to sheer population. With that said, crime went up in a lot of cities this past year and it will be interesting to see what cities get mentioned.
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Old 01-24-2021, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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There is safe and there is not pleasant. A lot of cities are still relatively safe in terms of violent crime but may be less pleasant to walk in now with tents, encampments, boarded up stores and vagrants loitering around storefronts.
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Old 01-24-2021, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Somewhere you probably can't afford.
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Old 01-24-2021, 02:25 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Where are you getting your info that New York is no longer safe?

I am in Midtown Manhattan and do not once feel unsafe walking around day or night. As one poster mentioned, its not as pleasant as it was in 2019 (more vacancies, more trash, more homeless, etc.) but its not unsafe. I am getting tired of all the things I mentioned above though.

I think most large walk-able cities are more or less the same in their good parts, and still bad in their bad parts. At least in my experiences with NYC, Philadelphia, Chicago and DC.

My few work trips around the country this year (West Coast cities, Austin and Miami) I have noticed a major uptick in homeless and tents, but again, I didn't feel unsafe.

It will be interesting though to see if 2020 was just a bad year, or if crime trends will indeed get worse in 2021 and beyond. The year is off to a bad start in many cities and the gap between wealth and poor (and generally white and non-white) is greater than ever in many large cities (New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, DC).

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Old 01-24-2021, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Boston, Cambridge and Somerville. Its the walking city for a reason.

Cambridge + Somerville had maybe 2 murders in 2020. 1 in total in 2019. 0 in 2018. Thats 205k people adjacent to the Core of Boston with 1 murder itself in its five downtown neighborhoods in 2020.

Then I would say Arlington VA, parts of Manhattan, Hoboken NJ.
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Old 01-24-2021, 06:43 PM
 
Location: ATL via ROC
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Boston, Cambridge and Somerville. Its the walking city for a reason.

Cambridge + Somerville had maybe 2 murders in 2020. 1 in total in 2019. 0 in 2018. Thats 205k people adjacent to the Core of Boston with 1 murder itself in its five downtown neighborhoods in 2020.

Then I would say Arlington VA, parts of Manhattan, Hoboken NJ.
I think this post sums it up. The thing is, the below definitely applies...

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Somewhere you probably can't afford.
Walkability comes at a steep price in the United States. It perhaps shouldn't. But it certainly does these days.
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Old 01-24-2021, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Where are you getting your info that New York is no longer safe?

I am in Midtown Manhattan and do not once feel unsafe walking around day or night. As one poster mentioned, its not as pleasant as it was in 2019 (more vacancies, more trash, more homeless, etc.) but its not unsafe. I am getting tired of all the things I mentioned above though.
Exactly this^^

I live in Brooklyn and go into Manhattan a couple of times a week. This weekend, we went into the West Village, Flatiron, Lower East Side, Upper West Side and Hell's Kitchen. There was nothing "unsafe" about any neighborhood.

I think the narrative is coming from some blown up news stories focusing on one or two very isolated events over the course of the pandemic.

There are a few more vacant stores in every neighborhood I've been in, in Manhattan, and they are much quieter--but none are less safe now, than before the pandemic.


But back to the OP's topic--

I think Boston is up there, New York City, Atlanta ranks high now, San Francisco, Chicago, Seattle.

Smaller cities are Greenville, SC, Charleston, SC, Chattanooga, TN, Ann Arbor, MI and Madison, WI, to name a few.
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Old 01-24-2021, 06:59 PM
 
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NYC is the safest. No question
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Old 01-24-2021, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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NYC is the safest. No question
Its in question, hence the purpose of this thread.
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