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Old 12-02-2020, 09:13 AM
 
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No unnatural births?
Point taken.

"Natural increases" probably would have been better words to use.
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Old 12-02-2020, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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I can't wait to see the biggest shedders.

NY
CT
IL
WV
NJ
MS
VT
RI
HI

I'm predicting
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Old 12-02-2020, 09:19 AM
 
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I can't wait to see the biggest shedders.

NY
CT
IL
WV
NJ
MS
VT
RI
HI

I'm predicting
Someone just posted the numbers in a different thread on Monday...

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In 2019, only 23 states had positive net domestic migration numbers. 27 states (and DC) had negative numbers:

−682 Vermont
−710 Missouri
−1,012 Wyoming
−1,267 North Dakota
−1,438 Wisconsin
−1,541 Kentucky
−2,136 New Mexico
−2,203 District of Columbia
−3,215 Rhode Island
−4,220 Nebraska
−5,011 Iowa
−7,073 West Virginia
−9,136 Virginia
−9,482 Alaska
−10,740 Mississippi
−12,357 Kansas
−12,916 Ohio
−13,817 Hawaii
−19,588 Pennsylvania
−22,059 Connecticut
−23,665 Maryland
−23,670 Michigan
−26,045 Louisiana
−30,274 Massachusetts
−48,946 New Jersey
−104,986 Illinois
−180,649 New York
−203,414 California

This isn't the perfect stat to judge which state has the most natives leaving. If Texas had a million people leaving and 1.2 million people entering, they wouldn't be on this list, for example. But overall it's still a good indicator.
So essentially, the top 10 "shedders" are:

1. California
2. New York
3. Illinois
4. New Jersey
5. Massachusetts
6. Louisiana
7. Michigan
8. Maryland
9. Connecticut
10. Pennsylvania.
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Old 12-02-2020, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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Someone just posted the numbers in a different thread on Monday...



So essentially, the top 10 "shedders" are:

1. California
2. New York
3. Illinois
4. New Jersey
5. Massachusetts
6. Louisiana
7. Michigan
8. Maryland
9. Connecticut
10. Pennsylvania.
Interesting only seeing 1 southern state in the top 10. Unless you include Maryland. Not to pile on Louisiana but it just feels like the state is getting worst. And it was already on the bottom tier but man.
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Old 12-02-2020, 09:28 AM
 
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Interesting only seeing 1 southern state in the top 10. Unless you include Maryland. Not to pile on Louisiana but it just feels like the state is getting worst. And it was already on the bottom tier but man.
In all fairness, Louisiana is considerably bigger than places like Mississippi and Arkansas, so it simply has more people to lose.

Plus, Louisiana doesn't have a Charlotte (SC) or Huntsville (AL).
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Old 12-02-2020, 10:13 AM
 
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In all fairness, Louisiana is considerably bigger than places like Mississippi and Arkansas, so it simply has more people to lose.

Plus, Louisiana doesn't have a Charlotte (SC) or Huntsville (AL).
I don’t get the Huntsville reference.
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Old 12-02-2020, 10:54 AM
 
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Interesting only seeing 1 southern state in the top 10. Unless you include Maryland. Not to pile on Louisiana but it just feels like the state is getting worst. And it was already on the bottom tier but man.
Interesting, but not surprising, as people are using this time to migrate south right now.
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Old 12-02-2020, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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There's simply no credible evidence whatsoever that people are fleeing Florida due to FEWER covid restrictions. None. The opposite has actually been true. Northeastern states with the strongest restrictions to covid (a virus with a 99.96% recovery rate, mind you) are fleeing to states that aren't in such a panic. They're losing their shirts living in those areas. Not saying there shouldn't be precautions, especially those at risk. But the emotional flailing about is causing people to ignore facts and science that was enacted in past pandemics (2009/1969), including herd immunity (which no one dares talk about). Florida has opened the state and has done very well overall. Continually opening and closing economies and communities and living in steril bubbles only will prolong covid indefinitely due to herd immunity not being allowed to happen. These are simply unarguable scientific facts. The CDC has had to recalculate their data 3 times over massive misinformation and elementary miscalculations in their data. So to say that people are fleeing Florida due to having "zero" restrictions over a virus that has such an astronomically high recovery rate is almost laughable. Not trying to be patronizing, but making the "cure" (ie hand-over-fist restrictions) worse than the virus itself is throwing the baby out with the bathwater X10.
I don't know where you are getting your COVID numbers, but they are incredibly wrong, and shouldn't be stated as fact. Credible sources (state and county reports, Johns-Hopkins, and yes the CDC, etc) show much much higher rates of death and illness.

To show HOW wrong it is, even if EVERY American was infected, and if it were true that 99.96% recovered, it would have killed "only" 131,000 and as of today at least 280,000 Americans have already died of the virus. There have been well over 300,000 "excess deaths" this year as of a month ago per the CDC, even if one wants to argue that all were not caused directly by COVID.

Somewhere between 5 and 10%, maximum, have had the virus in the US based on antibody testing. Even if assume as high as 10% have been infected, that would make the death rate just under 1% of all infected, or 15 times deadlier than the flu. Looking at actual data, positive tests and deaths in all the US, the number is 2%. In Florida, it is 1.9%.

70% of the US population must become infected and recover before herd immunity is reached - at a 1% death rate, that means that over 2 million people would die.

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Old 12-02-2020, 12:27 PM
 
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I don’t get the Huntsville reference.
It's the only metro area in Alabama seeing any sizable growth and inward migration.
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Old 12-02-2020, 01:51 PM
 
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It's the only metro area in Alabama seeing any sizable growth and inward migration.
Ok. Well then I don’t get the Charlotte, SC reference, but on a larger point I agree. There is not enough economic growth in Louisiana that would make it an attractive place for outsiders to live.
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