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Agreed that the Mississippi river is the so called demarcation between east and west. Because it is the only thing that really is a physical barrier/ bifurcation north to south in the country.
In reality, the dry line which occurs at roughly the 100th meridian is the real line between east and west because it is an atmospheric bifurcation rather than a physical one it doesn't get credit.
I’d say once you get beyond the Mississippi River Valley you enter the west. Like Kansas City is more like the cities to its west like Denver than to its east like Cincinnati. But along the actual river (especially in the lower and middle Mississippi) it’s more Eastern like since those towns are deeply tied to the Ohio. Like St Louis is very tied to the Ohio River towns of Louisville and Cincinnati. It’s an eastward facing city historically and culturally.
Even Minneapolis betting beyond the part of the River than handeled River traffic is Western.
I’d say once you get beyond the Mississippi River Valley you enter the west. Like Kansas City is more like the cities to its west like Denver than to its east like Cincinnati. But along the actual river (especially in the lower and middle Mississippi) it’s more Eastern like since those towns are deeply tied to the Ohio. Like St Louis is very tied to the Ohio River towns of Louisville and Cincinnati. It’s an eastward facing city historically and culturally.
Even Minneapolis betting beyond the part of the River than handeled River traffic is Western.
That's interesting that you have that perspective. Living out here on the plains I don't really think anybody really sees KCMO as "western" in the same sense that they do Denver, but it certainly isn't exactly like St. Louis either... so I can see why somebody from the east might think that KCMO is "western".
It would be interesting to see what somebody in the west (say Denver) thought about KCMO.
That's interesting that you have that perspective. Living out here on the plains I don't really think anybody really sees KCMO as "western" in the same sense that they do Denver, but it certainly isn't exactly like St. Louis either... so I can see why somebody from the east might think that KCMO is "western".
It would be interesting to see what somebody in the west (say Denver) thought about KCMO.
Well, almost all trees in Johnson County, KS were planted in neighborhoods, far fewer were naturally occurring. In the eastern US many neighborhoods are built into the woods. I obtained more perspective after living in various areas of the US. It's basically all about the Mississippi River generally dividing the US into the West (fewer trees) and East (more trees).
How much of the Midwest do you consider to also be part of the Eastern United States?
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Originally Posted by Tusco
I don't think this one has been done in poll form before.
All of the Midwest that is EAST of the Mississippi River is what is normally considered the eastern United States (if you divide the country in half). Indeed, the Southeast goes all the way to the Mississippi.
The Eastern US includes the Southeast, Northeast and the majority of the Great Lakes States - all of Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin and part of Minnesota.
All of the eastern time zone east of Illinois and Michigan and including all of Florida is the east. Certainly Ohio is and Indiana is transitional as is eastern Kentucky. Tennessee is more South than Midwest.
All of the Midwest that is EAST of the Mississippi River is what is normally considered the eastern United States (if you divide the country in half). Indeed, the Southeast goes all the way to the Mississippi.
The Eastern US includes the Southeast, Northeast and the majority of the Great Lakes States - all of Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin and part of Minnesota.
No disrespect meant, but how would you divide MN between Eastern US & Western US? The Mississippi does not bisect Minnesota.
All of the Midwest that is EAST of the Mississippi River is what is normally considered the eastern United States (if you divide the country in half). Indeed, the Southeast goes all the way to the Mississippi.
The Eastern US includes the Southeast, Northeast and the majority of the Great Lakes States - all of Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin and part of Minnesota.
So aren't you saying here that the Midwest simply does not exist? The OP is asking specifically about the *Midwest*, not the Eastern and Western halves of the US.
So aren't you saying here that the Midwest simply does not exist? The OP is asking specifically about the *Midwest*, not the Eastern and Western halves of the US.
The Midwest exists, but outside the concept of the Eastern and Western US. It overlaps and is used in a different context, namely as an actual region of the country.
No disrespect meant, but how would you divide MN between Eastern US & Western US? The Mississippi does not bisect Minnesota.
You could either say northern Minnesota is neither Eastern nor Western. Or you could call it Canada for ships and giggles. Either way, it is ambiguous on some level.
That's interesting that you have that perspective. Living out here on the plains I don't really think anybody really sees KCMO as "western" in the same sense that they do Denver, but it certainly isn't exactly like St. Louis either... so I can see why somebody from the east might think that KCMO is "western".
It would be interesting to see what somebody in the west (say Denver) thought about KCMO.
“western” is a term used loosely to define a number of things that may indeed fit Denver and not KC. “The Western United States” is a different concept than simply “western”.
I think the main issue seems to be people haven’t heard the terms Eastern US and Western US. All this discussion of “East Coast” and “western” makes me think that is the case. Granted there is nuance in how language is used, and the devil is in the details.
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