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Old 12-12-2020, 03:38 PM
 
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20 percent unemployment rate in most of the Florida metros? Have any source for that?
Nope, no one does. The BLS cooks the numbers to indicate those who are working whether full time or part time/underemployed as well as those on UE benefits, and does not count those who have given up looking or anyone who has exhausted UE benefits. The ripple effect of tens of thosuands of layoffs from WDW/Universal extends into hotels, restuaurants, bars, airlines and countless other occupations. Outside of a few job sectors very little hiring is happening to offset the layoffs, so it's a matter of common sense really. Which I wouldn't expect many here to follow...
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Old 12-12-2020, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Nope, no one does. The BLS cooks the numbers to indicate those who are working whether full time or part time/underemployed as well as those on UE benefits, and does not count those who have given up looking or anyone who has exhausted UE benefits. The ripple effect of tens of thosuands of layoffs from WDW/Universal extends into hotels, restuaurants, bars, airlines and countless other occupations. Outside of a few job sectors very little hiring is happening to offset the layoffs, so it's a matter of common sense really. Which I wouldn't expect many here to follow...
How does any of that stop Florida's population from continuing to grow? People don't move here for the jobs, they never have lol. It might grow less quickly, but in general the entire country is growing less quickly as time goes on. Florida is not falling behind any time soon... we'll probably cross 30 million at some point unless something catastrophic happens
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Old 12-14-2020, 05:02 PM
 
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Georgia and North Carolina will both eventually surpass Ohio, I'm predicting this will happen sometime between 2030 - 2035. Then, they will probably surpass Illinois by around 2040. Ohio could maybe pass Illinois after they both get passed by NC and GA.

Besides that, I don't think the top 10 will change much in the next 30 years. Washington or Arizona will probably make their way into the top 10 (and kick Michigan out) but that is several decades away.

Colorado will definitely jump ahead of Wisconsin, Maryland, and Missouri into #18 before 2030. It might also pass Indiana in the next 20 years.

One consistent trend I see is that pretty much all of the Northeast states will continue to slide down in their rankings (besides New York which will stay at #4 for a long time). Even Massachusetts, which is the fastest growing state in the Northeast, will get surpassed by Tennessee. Not sure if this trend will turn around.
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Old 12-14-2020, 08:02 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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I can see Virginia as the next top ten state, but not for a while. I think that the states in the top ten are set for at least another couple of decades. They'll swap spaces but I don't see another state cracking it. Eventually I think that VA will supplant Michigan, but not sure when.
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Old 12-15-2020, 07:42 AM
 
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Georgia and North Carolina will both eventually surpass Ohio, I'm predicting this will happen sometime between 2030 - 2035. Then, they will probably surpass Illinois by around 2040. Ohio could maybe pass Illinois after they both get passed by NC and GA.

Besides that, I don't think the top 10 will change much in the next 30 years. Washington or Arizona will probably make their way into the top 10 (and kick Michigan out) but that is several decades away.

Colorado will definitely jump ahead of Wisconsin, Maryland, and Missouri into #18 before 2030. It might also pass Indiana in the next 20 years.

One consistent trend I see is that pretty much all of the Northeast states will continue to slide down in their rankings (besides New York which will stay at #4 for a long time). Even Massachusetts, which is the fastest growing state in the Northeast, will get surpassed by Tennessee. Not sure if this trend will turn around.
That was my thought. I'm certain Colorado will jump ahead of Wisconsin when the final 2020 numbers are published.
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Old 12-15-2020, 07:46 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Is it predicted that Pennsylvania will increase the gap between Illinois as #5 in the coming years?
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Old 12-15-2020, 11:31 AM
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]Nope, no one does. The BLS cooks the numbers to indicate those who are working whether full time or part time/underemployed as well as those on UE benefits, and does not count those who have given up looking or anyone who has exhausted UE benefits. [/b]The ripple effect of tens of thosuands of layoffs from WDW/Universal extends into hotels, restuaurants, bars, airlines and countless other occupations. Outside of a few job sectors very little hiring is happening to offset the layoffs, so it's a matter of common sense really. Which I wouldn't expect many here to follow...

Your statement is incorrect.


The BLS publishes several different sets of unemployment statistics. The one your looking for is U6.


Current U6 unemployment rate in the US is 12%.....


historical rates here: https://www.macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate
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Old 12-15-2020, 12:11 PM
 
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Top 3 will remain the same for the foreseeable future

1st. California 40 million
2nd. Texas 30 million
3rd. Florida at 21.5 million
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Old 12-15-2020, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Here are my 2030 ranking predictions for the top 20 states:


1. California 42.5 million
2. Texas 31.5 million
3. Florida 23.9 million
4. New York 19.5 million
5. Pennsylvania 13 million

6. Illinois 12.3 million
7 North Carolina 11.9 million
8 Georgia 11.8 million
9 Ohio 11.8 million
10 Michigan 10.2 million

11. Virginia 9.3 million
12. New Jersey 9.1 million
13. Washington 8.6 million
14. Arizona 8.4 million
15. Tennessee 7.4 million

16. Massachusetts 7.2 million
17. Indiana 7 million
18. Maryland 6.5 million
19. Missouri 6.3 million
20. Colorado 6.3 million


The highlighted states in red, indicate they will have dropped in rankings from 2020 to 2030.

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Old 12-15-2020, 02:09 PM
 
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Here are my 2030 ranking predictions for the top 20 states:


1. California 42.5 million
2. Texas 31.5 million
3. Florida 23.9 million
4. New York 19.5 million
5. Pennsylvania 13 million

6. Illinois 12.3 million
7 North Carolina 11.9 million
8 Georgia 11.8 million
9 Ohio 11.8 million
10 Michigan 10.2 million

11. Virginia 9.3 million
12. New Jersey 9.1 million
13. Washington 8.6 million
14. Arizona 8.4 million
15. Tennessee 7.4 million

16. Massachusetts 7.2 million
17. Indiana 7 million
18. Maryland 6.5 million
19. Missouri 6.3 million
20. Colorado 6.3 million


The highlighted states in red, indicate they will have dropped in rankings from 2020 to 2030.
Texas will be much higher than that in 10 years. The state is already at or near the 30 million mark and by 2030 I would say the state population would be somewhere around 34 - 35 million.
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