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View Poll Results: Brightest future?
Texas 13 12.62%
Florida 3 2.91%
Georgia 5 4.85%
Virginia 3 2.91%
California 9 8.74%
New York 9 8.74%
Pennsylvania 1 0.97%
Washington 4 3.88%
Oregon 0 0%
Idaho 3 2.91%
Colorado 3 2.91%
Tennessee 5 4.85%
Utah 3 2.91%
Illinois 4 3.88%
Minnesota 2 1.94%
Michigan 2 1.94%
Nevada 0 0%
North Carolina 11 10.68%
New England 17 16.50%
Other 6 5.83%
Voters: 103. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-27-2020, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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yea, imo, the south is the future. The coasts better adjust or else.
TX, GA, NC, FL are all coastal states. Granted, their largest urban centers are inland (with the exception of Florida), but I wouldn’t say they’re any less coastal than say, NY or CA.

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Old 12-27-2020, 06:12 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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I don't think that people actually think like that. Most people select a neighborhood after they decide generally (city or metro) where they want to move. Especially people with kids, which was the question.
I respectfully disagree. Most people choose a place to live based on where they work. After that they will choose the particular neighborhood they want based on housing affordability, schools for the kids (if any), type of residence (condo, apartment, single-family, et al), what a commute will look like, and cultural, entertainment, and outdoor activity options.

Even for breadwinners who are totally work from home, it makes much more sense to look at these types of things first, than to try and decide where to live on a statewide basis. Only thing that mught be considered on a statewide basis is a weather/climate type preference, but even that can vary widely within the same state.

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Old 12-27-2020, 07:45 PM
 
Location: OC
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TX, GA, NC, FL are all coastal states. Granted, their largest urban centers are inland (with the exception of Florida), but I wouldn’t say they’re any less coastal than say, NY or CA.
Ah, I meant the traditional association, ie westcoast and honestly the DC to Boston corridor.
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Old 12-27-2020, 11:07 PM
 
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But let's say your main objective is to be around your children when they're adults, if possible, where would you live? What would you be looking for? For me, it's the southern states.
It's a little hard for me to answer this question, because my hopes for my kids isn't that they live near me when they grow up. Don't get me wrong, that's great if they do, but it's not really a marker of success for me. In fact, for most people I know, mobility is a marker of success.

I hope my kids chase good opportunities wherever it takes them. I hope they have stability in their personal relationships, have enough financial success that they have choices in life and aren't constantly stressed by money, they get some fulfillment from their career, keep an open mind about the world and do some traveling or living abroad, have some sort of hobby they enjoy, aren't lazy, are resilient when challenges arise, and be decent people (basically following the golden rule). If that happens, they will be very successful in my book.

What is the best state for that? I don't know. I think they are doing well in California, so I picked that, but in reality I think it would be easy to find neighborhoods in most of the top 25 MSA's that would work just as well. The more insular metros would probably rate lower, IMO, but I still think there are places that would work even in those.
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Old 12-27-2020, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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It's a little hard for me to answer this question, because my hopes for my kids isn't that they live near me when they grow up. Don't get me wrong, that's great if they do, but it's not really a marker of success for me. In fact, for most people I know, mobility is a marker of success.

I hope my kids chase good opportunities wherever it takes them. I hope they have stability in their personal relationships, have enough financial success that they have choices in life and aren't constantly stressed by money, they get some fulfillment from their career, keep an open mind about the world and do some traveling or living abroad, have some sort of hobby they enjoy, aren't lazy, are resilient when challenges arise, and be decent people (basically following the golden rule). If that happens, they will be very successful in my book.

What is the best state for that? I don't know. I think they are doing well in California, so I picked that, but in reality I think it would be easy to find neighborhoods in most of the top 25 MSA's that would work just as well. The more insular metros would probably rate lower, IMO, but I still think there are places that would work even in those.
Well said. I agree 100%.
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Old 12-27-2020, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Just reading the thread title brought me to a very different answer than the OP haha. But after reading the OP I get that POV as well.

But my initial reaction was two-fold:
1) well they can be setup for success anywhere really
2) but if I really had to pick a time and place, I guess I'd settle in CA during high school so they can attend a CA school at in-state rates. Either that or Germany so they feel comfortable attending one of the free German universities. lol.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:17 AM
 
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I think the demographics of the town matter more than where in the country as far as outcomes are concerned. Any white collar professional bedroom town with 60%+ college educated adults is going to have a strong school system and good peer group.
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Old 12-28-2020, 03:19 AM
 
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Bologna. Choose a lifestyle in which the whole family has a chance to give all the children the best nurturing.

If you settle in a neighborhood so "good" that you can afford it only with extra part-time jobs that take up all your time and attention, your children will fail in that vacuum of contented affection, guidance and example.
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Old 12-28-2020, 04:54 AM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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I understand that successful people come from all regions of the world, your influence over your child is the biggest factor in success, and that this country is cyclical.

But let's say your main objective is to be around your children when they're adults, if possible, where would you live? What would you be looking for? For me, it's the southern states:

Low cost of living
Has not peaked
Job and people migration


I think you'd have to look at Texas, Florida, Georgia or North Carolina? It feels like the coasts are starting their fade, am I wrong?
You have no choice in where your children choose to settle as adults unless you're helicopter parenting to an inappropriate level. Furthermore, the objective for me is to want my children to fully and completely explore their potential and if that means leaving home, thats what it is...

Where I'd choose to live and raise them isnt predicated on having them stay there as an adult. Its a place both comfortable enough for me with great resources for a child...

Personally, I've gotten stuck in NC because my children are here, and I'm not saying "stuck" in the negative sense, only in the sense that if I had complete autonomy I'd raise them half their life in California and half in Virginia. As it is, I'm not unhappy here, and we live in an area where they will have access to great public education and local universities, I just think an overall richer childhood could be lived elsewhere. They'll do well here and hopefully at some point they choose to leave, even if they come back at some point...
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Old 12-28-2020, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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If you want to live in the same state as your kids then make sure the state has top opportunities in the fields in which they want to pursue. If you're in Colorado for example your kids are pretty much guaranteed to move out to pursue their dreams unless they want to be winter Olympians. Big states like CA, TX or NY might have enough of everything to increase the likelihood that they'll end up staying.
Personally I would be fine not living in the same city or state as my kids. Not really interested in becoming a free babysitting service.
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