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Miami is both—malls include Aventura, Bal Harbour, Dadeland, Dolphin, Sawgrass, Shops at Merrick Park etc....street level includes Miracle Mile, Design District (I don’t consider this a mall—more like Rodeo Drive), Lincoln Road Mall (again, open air/outdoors and street / walk path accessible) and Worth Avenue in Palm Beach.
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Originally Posted by BigCity76
New York metro is overwhelmingly both. NYC is obviously the king of street oriented shopping and then you have all the pretty main street towns in the suburban enclaves in NJ, LI, Hudson Valley and Fairfield. Then there's all the malls in retail havens like Paramus. The metro area spans the entire gamut.
I wonder how you know San Jose is street oriented, but are unsure about Oakland, a city in the urban core of the Bay Area and the heart of one of the most densely populated corridors in the country? Just found that odd.
Oakland's retail is definitely street oriented. There are no malls in the city at all.
I think we should differentiate between downtown shopping malls and suburban malls that are huge boxes surrounded by hundreds of acres of parking lots.
Is Boston street oriented? Copley Place, Prudential Center, Cambridgeside Galleria lots of big malls in the city center
Newbury, Boylston, Downtown Crossing, Fenway, Chinatown, Commonwealth Ave in Brookline, but then practical shopping is also done in the street in. The various squares(Uphams Corner, Centre Street/Hyde Square, Mattapan Square Ferry Square in Everett, Malden Center, Codman Square, Quincy Center, Harvard Square, Central Square, Davis Square, Clearly Square, and commercial corridors everywhere (Dot Ave, Mass Ave, Blue Hill Ave/Nubian Square/Grove Hall) as opposed to strip malls.
The malls are also superb (Chestnut Hill Mall, Natick Mall, South Shore Plaza, North Shore Mall, Westgate Mall, CambridgeSide...) but it's noted most for street level shopping in the core and has much more of it than almost any metro that's not New York.
Overall, Boston is a shopping rich area with large, modern, attractive, lively, malls and many shopping thoroughfares. As well as open air malls like Legacy Place, Assembly Square, Faneuil Hall, and South Bay.
Detroit - surprisingly, I've heard Woodward Avenue is a decent shopping street
Woodward was for sure a premier shopping destination pre1970s. It was abandoned by the 90s. It's mostly come back over the last 10 years and there are some decent brands on it now. Still the premier shopping in Detroit is going to happen 16 miles north at the Somerset Collection in Troy, and to a lesser extent at 12 Oaks Mall out in Novi.
Yeah, those are the two I was thinking of - Newbury street is a primary shopping street in Boston.
When I classified certain cities "mall-oriented", I guess I was thinking of cities that don't have most of the shops concentrated on a street downtown, or in the downtown area in some form - sometimes "malls" are organically incorporated into the urban fabric, which I consider to be more "street-oriented" or mixed shopping.
I think we should differentiate between downtown shopping malls and suburban malls that are huge boxes surrounded by hundreds of acres of parking lots.
I wonder how you know San Jose is street oriented, but are unsure about Oakland, a city in the urban core of the Bay Area and the heart of one of the most densely populated corridors in the country? Just found that odd.
Oakland's retail is definitely street oriented. There are no malls in the city at all.
I actually haven't been to either city, only SF. I knew about Santana Row.
With people answering both - most metro areas in the country would really be both - I reserved the "street-oriented" label for cities that I figured had at least one robust shopping street with a notable handful of big-name brands on it.
Disagree highly with Seattle being a street shopping city, most of the "serious shopping" (besides mostly small, expensive stores located in certain areas of downtown) is found in Bellevue or in malls surrounding the city proper. Seattle's urbanism is highly overrated in my opinion, and I might catch some flack for that, but I find most of the downtown of the city to be rather devoid of street level shopping, and low amount of pedestrians considering the metro population. Obviously this is changing fast with the development of apartments in the city's core but I have found Portland and Vancouver to both be more "lively" than Seattle.
Seattle has Pine St. and a fair bit of decent street level shopping downtown, with a number of big department stores. I wasn't parsing liveliness.
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