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Old 08-15-2021, 01:07 PM
 
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Would it? I thought Burlington was very attached to Greensboro.
https://www.ncdemography.org/2015/08...-commuting-nc/

From 2015, but Greensboro’s MSA got about 11% of Alamance’s employees to commute. Orange, Wake, and Durham would be over 17%. We’d have to see updated numbers and see how any OMB rules are rewritten, but Alamance is definitely starting to feel the overflow from RTP and Orange County in particular.
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Old 08-15-2021, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Northern United States
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I think it should be noted that much of Indianapolis’ population growth might/probably is occurring in its urban core. While Indianapolis is not a city while regarded for its urbanity, even when compared to Columbus due to it’s pre-war core lacking large amounts of apartment buildings, rowhomes, etc and it’s downtown has never been super large in the first place. It should be noted that much of the urban blight in surrounding neighborhoods around the downtown has been eliminated through large-scale construction.

It seems like from what I’ve read, that there are a large amount of non-profits and programs that have helped build new homes or renovate older ones, along with large developers. As a result, neighborhoods like Kennedy-King and Fountain Square have probably seen over half of their vacant lots built on in the past 10 years or so.
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Old 08-15-2021, 01:46 PM
 
Location: ATL via ROC
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Columbus will be ahead of Cincinnati by 2030.
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Old 08-15-2021, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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https://www.ncdemography.org/2015/08...-commuting-nc/

From 2015, but Greensboro’s MSA got about 11% of Alamance’s employees to commute. Orange, Wake, and Durham would be over 17%. We’d have to see updated numbers and see how any OMB rules are rewritten, but Alamance is definitely starting to feel the overflow from RTP and Orange County in particular.
awe I was rooting for the Triad to take over Alamance County.
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Old 08-15-2021, 02:06 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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awe I was rooting for the Triad to take over Alamance County.
Alamance is already in the Triad. With the Triangle between Fayetteville to the south and the Triad to the west, it's not difficult to imagine the counties that separate them being in a tug of war between two metros. In addition to Alamance between the Triad and Triangle, Lee and Harnett are between the Triangle and Fayetteville. All 3 of these counties could see their alignments change over time depending on how the OMB classifies MSAs and CSAs. Central NC is quite crowded with MSAs in the corridor between Winston-Salem and Fayetteville.
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Old 08-15-2021, 02:10 PM
 
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Correct, Alamance is it’s own MSA but part of the Greensboro—Winston-Salem—High Point CSA. Things will hinge on the next OMB update, which I’m assuming is 2023.
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Old 08-15-2021, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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Iirc, Lowell and Lawrence had their own MSAs separate from Boston’s in 2000. I wonder if by 2040 Boston will have cannibalized Worcester/Fitchburg and Manchester/Nashua?
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Old 08-15-2021, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Iirc, Lowell and Lawrence had their own MSAs separate from Boston’s in 2000. I wonder if by 2040 Boston will have cannibalized Worcester/Fitchburg and Manchester/Nashua?
I wouldn't be surprised if Worcester County is absorbed into GBA this round.
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Old 08-15-2021, 02:20 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Correct, Alamance is it’s own MSA but part of the Greensboro—Winston-Salem—High Point CSA. Things will hinge on the next OMB update, which I’m assuming is 2023.
If the Triangle was reunited into 1 MSA after 20 years of being separated, it could be a rather significant data game changer for how the Triangle is reported as a metro area. If the Triangle stole all 3 of my previously mentioned counties from adjacent CSAs, it could wind up with a CSA that's easily 2.6M in 2023.
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Old 08-15-2021, 02:22 PM
 
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Iirc, Lowell and Lawrence had their own MSAs separate from Boston’s in 2000. I wonder if by 2040 Boston will have cannibalized Worcester/Fitchburg and Manchester/Nashua?
Maybe Lawrence/Lynn did, but Lowell shares a County with Cambrudge, so no way they were seperatec
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