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Old 08-26-2021, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Funny how city’s in colder climate have so in compared to those in the warmer locations
They are always going to busy come rain, sun or snow because their downtowns have substantially larger resident populations and are also larger employment centers.
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Old 08-26-2021, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Louisville
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Funny how city’s in colder climate have so in compared to those in the warmer locations
I think it has much less to do with climate and more of when the built environment in these cities were formed. Older cities have a much more urban form than the sunbelt cities that have exploded during the age of the automobile.
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Old 08-26-2021, 09:38 AM
 
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I think it has much less to do with climate and more of when the built environment in these cities were formed. Older cities have a much more urban form than the sunbelt cities that have exploded during the age of the automobile.
Generation PLUS local public policy and other factors are to blame. The world is full of urbanity built since the automobile.
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:12 PM
 
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Generation PLUS local public policy and other factors are to blame. The world is full of urbanity built since the automobile.
Many cities in the world full of urbanity weren't built during the age of the Interstate/Highways. Only some of the newer ones like Shenzhen or in China's pearl river delta but single-family housing isn't a priority in East Asia.
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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Older cities have a much more urban form than the sunbelt cities that have exploded during the age of the automobile.
Happened at the same time, but I wonder if "age of the air conditioner" might be more appropriate?
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Louisville
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Happened at the same time, but I wonder if "age of the air conditioner" might be more appropriate?
I mean it certainly helped, but every US population center shifted to a suburban style of development 1940s on. It was a cultural shift, everyone wanted to be further way from the cores. We didn’t really start seeing a rebalancing of the city centers start until the 1980s really.
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:38 PM
 
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Many cities in the world full of urbanity weren't built during the age of the Interstate/Highways. Only some of the newer ones like Shenzhen or in China's pearl river delta but single-family housing isn't a priority in East Asia.
What about places like Vancouver? Also to a lesser extent some US cities like Seattle, Portland, San Diego, LA, and so on?

All were primarily single-family for many years, but all have densified with much more urban planning concepts since, and have pretty good transit stats, booming downtowns, etc.
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:54 PM
 
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What about places like Vancouver? Also to a lesser extent some US cities like Seattle, Portland, San Diego, LA, and so on?

All were primarily single-family for many years, but all have densified with much more urban planning concepts since, and have pretty good transit stats, booming downtowns, etc.
I mean Atlanta has those things and densifying. Good transit stats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_ridership) and a nice core from Buckhead to Downtown.

A shot from a drone from Sandy Springs to Downtown:


But all those cities you mentioned are next to the ocean. Other Sunbelt cities like Phoenix, Dallas, and Atlanta are landlocked.
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Old 08-26-2021, 03:12 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I mean Atlanta has those things and densifying. Good transit stats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_ridership) and a nice core from Buckhead to Downtown.

A shot from a drone from Sandy Springs to Downtown:


But all those cities you mentioned are next to the ocean. Other Sunbelt cities like Phoenix, Dallas, and Atlanta are landlocked.
Great Pic of Atlanta. The low clouds that frequent the Atlanta area makes the skyline look even more imposing.
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Old 08-26-2021, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Happened at the same time, but I wonder if "age of the air conditioner" might be more appropriate?
That's a good point. The growth of some cities, Houston for example, has been tied to air conditioning in many studies. NYC summers are unbearable imo in apartments that only have window units. I can't imagine what it would be like in Houston without central AC or no AC at all.

LA boomed when most homes still didn't have AC, but it wasn't much of a problem until people kept moving east. By that time AC came with homes and allowed the suburban sprawl to continue to areas that get hotter.
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