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In the US? Nothing outside of SF, Philly & Boston is going to be even remotely comparable to NYC or Chicago.
DC, Seattle, Atlanta, Dallas & Miami would be the next peg down followed by cities like Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Nashville, Denver, Minneapolis, Austin etc..
Are you just naming large cities? Atlanta and Dallas?? There are many smaller cities that have much more activity after 5:00 downtown than these two.
In the US? Nothing outside of SF, Philly & Boston is going to be even remotely comparable to NYC or Chicago.
DC, Seattle, Atlanta, Dallas & Miami would be the next peg down followed by cities like Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Nashville, Denver, Minneapolis, Austin etc..
Awesome.
Thank you.
I’m moving to Dallas in the near future.
Hoping I have no regrets.
Yeah I agree. Same in Seattle, most people consider downtown to be a small area of the actual urban core, mostly of office buildings and then say downtown is kind of boring. If you were to include Belltown, SLU, LQA/Uptown, Capitol Hill as “downtown” then it’s quite lively. And those areas are pretty contiguous anyway. And I agree my Canadian relatives in Toronto would consider all that to be downtown.
We can disagree. I've lived and worked in greater Downtown for decades and hear all sorts of versions. Even organizations...the Downtown Seattle Association covers a much larger area for example.
I think Austin has more activity on weekend nights than it does during the 9-5. If anything it's kind of dead during the daytime right now with so many people that used to go downtown now working from home. This is particularly true in the summer when it's too hot to be wandering around outside mid-day. Once the sun starts to set you see all the restaurants, bars, and the hiking trail fill up.
Basically if Boston were a Canadian City all the cool stuff would be considered Downtown because the North End, Back Bay, Beacon Hill, the Seaport etc would be called Downtown. Or in Atlanta Midtown would just also be Downtown.
Americans often complain about Downtown being boring because how they define Downtown is typically very restrictive.
Canadian cities also have office districts but they consider them part of Downtown rather than all of Downtown.
So a Canadian OP hears American cities Downtown’s die after 5pm while Canadian ones don’t comes more to a slightly different definition of Downtown between the two countries than a fundamental difference between cities.
Well at SOME time, distance wise, its no longer "downtown". If anything, it sounds like Toronto has exaggerated its central core. I lived in Atlanta too and for midtown to be part of downtown would be a big stretch. Dallas where I am now and Houston where I lived have uptown/midtown neighborhoods too and there are distinct borders for each all recognize. I think its good directionally speaking as well to not have city neighborhoods so big its hard to pinpoint a specific area.
When I say downtown, I’m referring to the downtown and surrounding immediate areas since every city defines there downtowns differently.
New Orleans is infinitely more busy at night than those cities.
Surrounding areas aren't downtown though. If that's the case we might as well replace downtown with urban core in the title.
New Orleans is infinitely more busy at night than those cities.
Surrounding areas aren't downtown though. If that's the case we might as well replace downtown with urban core in the title.
New Orleans is not “infinitely” more busy at night than any +5 million metro with maybeeee the exception being Boston due to culture… even adjusted adjusted for population. Don’t let the French Quarter/Bourbon street wrap the reality of the city.
Yes, we actually should replace downtown with urban core as downtowns aren't defined the same so it’s an objectively apples to oranges comparison. It’s an arbitrary term.
Yes, we actually should replace downtown with urban core as downtowns aren't defined the same so it’s an objectively apples to oranges comparison. It’s an arbitrary term.
Why? Downtown and urban core are two separate things. OP asked about downtown, not urban core. Some cities have ambiguous boundaries for their downtown area, but most are fairly well defined. I don't think anyone considers Capitol Hill part of downtown Seattle even though its unquestionably part of its urban core.
Sure, some downtowns occupy a much larger land area than others (I'm thinking LA vs San Francisco), but you're never truly going to get an apples to apples comparison, even with other metrics.
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