Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:01 PM
 
1,393 posts, read 861,166 times
Reputation: 771

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Justabystander View Post
Interesting. Only 3 states monopolize the top 10: Massachusetts (2), California (2), and Illinois (2). If you count metro areas, then NY (3); NY, NJ, and CT, for 9 out of the 10. Chicago is the only city proper to have 2 in the top ten by itself.
Thought northwestern was in evanston
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:45 PM
 
Location: In the heights
37,148 posts, read 39,404,784 times
Reputation: 21232
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ne999 View Post
Thought northwestern was in evanston

It is, though with a campus in Chicago for the medical school, law school, and a few other programs. Appropriate for Chicago, the Chicago campus for Northwestern also features the first skyscraper for a university.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-14-2021, 11:36 PM
 
5,743 posts, read 3,600,617 times
Reputation: 8905
I'm going to posit that cities without prestige colleges would, in this metric, perform equally to those listed. And the other four large universities had more impact than Tulane (for example) on the growth of New Orleans. I'm calling bogus.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2021, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Medfid
6,808 posts, read 6,043,031 times
Reputation: 5252
Interesting that some universities are only ranked regionally rather than nationally. In particular, this is the case for Wentworth, Assumption, Suffolk, and Bentley for Boston.

Clark University (Boston CSA) just misses the cut off at #103. I was surprised by how low the University of New Hampshire is at #136.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OyCrumbler View Post
Appropriate for Chicago, the Chicago campus for Northwestern also features the first skyscraper for a university.
It's older than the Cathedral of Learning!?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2021, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
12,164 posts, read 8,010,150 times
Reputation: 10134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justabystander View Post
Interesting. Only 3 states monopolize the top 10: Massachusetts (2), California (2), and Illinois (2). If you count metro areas, then NY (3); NY, NJ, and CT, for 9 out of the 10. Chicago is the only city proper to have 2 in the top ten by itself.
Cambridge with MIT and Harvard are both in top 10
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2021, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
12,164 posts, read 8,010,150 times
Reputation: 10134
I am Aa Seeing a very interesting trend here.

Most of the large increases in university rankings seem to be coming from state universities like the University of Florida Rutgers Texas UMass Amherst and more.

This is a pretty interesting trying to watch. Go State U!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2021, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Research Triangle Area, NC
6,379 posts, read 5,494,209 times
Reputation: 10041
Quote:
Originally Posted by masssachoicetts View Post
I am Aa Seeing a very interesting trend here.

Most of the large increases in university rankings seem to be coming from state universities like the University of Florida Rutgers Texas UMass Amherst and more.

This is a pretty interesting trying to watch. Go State U!
Flagship public Universities are the best "bang for your buck" as far as higher-ed goes.

It makes me just a little too happy to see UNC + 2 while Duke -2.....despite there still being a 20 spot "gap".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2021, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Green Country
2,868 posts, read 2,819,326 times
Reputation: 4798
Quote:
Originally Posted by masssachoicetts View Post
I am Aa Seeing a very interesting trend here.

Most of the large increases in university rankings seem to be coming from state universities like the University of Florida Rutgers Texas UMass Amherst and more.

This is a pretty interesting trying to watch. Go State U!
The price of higher education has skyrocketed and private universities have been at the forefront of that price creep. The tuition at Brandeis University and Tufts alone (neither a nationally known commodity by any means) is now at $60,000 per year.

I can absolutely understand why some top-tier students are saying: "You know what. I can pay $18,000 to go to the University of Virginia, get a Top 25 education, and save $30k from a comparable private university. Why not?" I also think State Universities have gotten really smart about this and have really built up Honors Colleges that compete very well with private universities. Some of them even have eligibility requirements like 32-33 ACT scores (see Michigan State) that basically means you can be surrounded by Ivy League-quality peers without the $$$$$.

I've noticed the same here in D.C. Universities like American University and George Washington University have seen their star fade as tuition has skyrocketed and who wants to pay $57k for a school ranked #50-100? Especially when you can pay $55k and attend Johns Hopkins, a Top 10 university, or $56k for Georgetown, a Top 25.

I think public universities will continue to rise, expensive B-tier private universities will continue to collapse, and Top 25 (and especially Top 50) universities will continue to thrive due to large endowments (Bloomberg casually donates billions to Johns Hopkins) and the continued influx of wealthy Asians who are willing to pay top-dollar for an elite degree.

Last edited by manitopiaaa; 09-15-2021 at 10:47 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2021, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
12,164 posts, read 8,010,150 times
Reputation: 10134
Quote:
Originally Posted by manitopiaaa View Post
The price of higher education has skyrocketed and private universities have been at the forefront of that price creep. The tuition at Brandeis University and Tufts alone (neither a nationally known commodity by any means) is now at $60,000 per year.

I can absolutely understand why some top-tier students are saying: "You know what. I can pay $18,000 to go to the University of Virginia, get a Top 25 education, and save $30k from a comparable private university. Why not?" I also think State Universities have gotten really smart about this and have really built up Honors Colleges that compete very well with private universities. Some of them even have eligibility requirements like 32-33 ACT scores (see Michigan State) that basically means you can be surrounded by Ivy League-quality peers without the $$$$$.

I've noticed the same here in D.C. Universities like American University and George Washington University have seen their star fade as tuition has skyrocketed and who wants to pay $57k for a school ranked #50-100? Especially when you can pay $55k and attend Johns Hopkins, a Top 10 university, or $56k for Georgetown, a Top 25.

I think public universities will continue to rise, expensive B-tier private universities will continue to collapse, and Top 25 (and especially Top 50) universities will continue to thrive due to large endowments (Bloomberg casually donates billions to Johns Hopkins) and the continued influx of wealthy Asians who are willing to pay top-dollar for an elite degree.
Exactly and state universities have programs directly linking into good state or federal jobs. Im a phd candidate at a state university. My program is a top 5, way ahead of many other Ivy Leagues and top tier private universities like Tufts or Georgetown.

Costs are lower. Programs are equally good.

Why would you pay quadruple for American University.. when you can go to UF or even Rutgers.. both ranked better?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2021, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Albany, NY
120 posts, read 107,502 times
Reputation: 182
Quote:
Originally Posted by manitopiaaa View Post
The price of higher education has skyrocketed and private universities have been at the forefront of that price creep. The tuition at Brandeis University and Tufts alone (neither a nationally known commodity by any means) is now at $60,000 per year.

I can absolutely understand why some top-tier students are saying: "You know what. I can pay $18,000 to go to the University of Virginia, get a Top 25 education, and save $30k from a comparable private university. Why not?" I also think State Universities have gotten really smart about this and have really built up Honors Colleges that compete very well with private universities. Some of them even have eligibility requirements like 32-33 ACT scores (see Michigan State) that basically means you can be surrounded by Ivy League-quality peers without the $$$$$.
I think those public universities will continue to do very well, as will small liberal arts colleges with large endowments which in many cases can offer free rides (or at least incredibly generous financial aid) to qualified students. It's the relatively impoverished schools that can't offer that kind of assistance which will increasingly suffer (see the Mills closure/absorption into Northeastern for a recent example).

Last edited by caravan70; 09-15-2021 at 03:37 PM.. Reason: Typo.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top