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Old 09-14-2021, 11:01 PM
 
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Interesting. Only 3 states monopolize the top 10: Massachusetts (2), California (2), and Illinois (2). If you count metro areas, then NY (3); NY, NJ, and CT, for 9 out of the 10. Chicago is the only city proper to have 2 in the top ten by itself.
Thought northwestern was in evanston
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Old 09-14-2021, 11:45 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Thought northwestern was in evanston

It is, though with a campus in Chicago for the medical school, law school, and a few other programs. Appropriate for Chicago, the Chicago campus for Northwestern also features the first skyscraper for a university.
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Old 09-15-2021, 12:36 AM
 
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I'm going to posit that cities without prestige colleges would, in this metric, perform equally to those listed. And the other four large universities had more impact than Tulane (for example) on the growth of New Orleans. I'm calling bogus.
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Old 09-15-2021, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Medfid
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Interesting that some universities are only ranked regionally rather than nationally. In particular, this is the case for Wentworth, Assumption, Suffolk, and Bentley for Boston.

Clark University (Boston CSA) just misses the cut off at #103. I was surprised by how low the University of New Hampshire is at #136.

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Appropriate for Chicago, the Chicago campus for Northwestern also features the first skyscraper for a university.
It's older than the Cathedral of Learning!?
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Old 09-15-2021, 08:09 AM
 
Location: North Jersey & Central Connecticut
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Interesting. Only 3 states monopolize the top 10: Massachusetts (2), California (2), and Illinois (2). If you count metro areas, then NY (3); NY, NJ, and CT, for 9 out of the 10. Chicago is the only city proper to have 2 in the top ten by itself.
Cambridge with MIT and Harvard are both in top 10
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Old 09-15-2021, 08:10 AM
 
Location: North Jersey & Central Connecticut
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I am Aa Seeing a very interesting trend here.

Most of the large increases in university rankings seem to be coming from state universities like the University of Florida Rutgers Texas UMass Amherst and more.

This is a pretty interesting trying to watch. Go State U!
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Old 09-15-2021, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Research Triangle Area, NC
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I am Aa Seeing a very interesting trend here.

Most of the large increases in university rankings seem to be coming from state universities like the University of Florida Rutgers Texas UMass Amherst and more.

This is a pretty interesting trying to watch. Go State U!
Flagship public Universities are the best "bang for your buck" as far as higher-ed goes.

It makes me just a little too happy to see UNC + 2 while Duke -2.....despite there still being a 20 spot "gap".
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Old 09-15-2021, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Prince William County of the Crown Commonwealth of Virginia
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I am Aa Seeing a very interesting trend here.

Most of the large increases in university rankings seem to be coming from state universities like the University of Florida Rutgers Texas UMass Amherst and more.

This is a pretty interesting trying to watch. Go State U!
The price of higher education has skyrocketed and private universities have been at the forefront of that price creep. The tuition at Brandeis University and Tufts alone (neither a nationally known commodity by any means) is now at $60,000 per year.

I can absolutely understand why some top-tier students are saying: "You know what. I can pay $18,000 to go to the University of Virginia, get a Top 25 education, and save $30k from a comparable private university. Why not?" I also think State Universities have gotten really smart about this and have really built up Honors Colleges that compete very well with private universities. Some of them even have eligibility requirements like 32-33 ACT scores (see Michigan State) that basically means you can be surrounded by Ivy League-quality peers without the $$$$$.

I've noticed the same here in D.C. Universities like American University and George Washington University have seen their star fade as tuition has skyrocketed and who wants to pay $57k for a school ranked #50-100? Especially when you can pay $55k and attend Johns Hopkins, a Top 10 university, or $56k for Georgetown, a Top 25.

I think public universities will continue to rise, expensive B-tier private universities will continue to collapse, and Top 25 (and especially Top 50) universities will continue to thrive due to large endowments (Bloomberg casually donates billions to Johns Hopkins) and the continued influx of wealthy Asians who are willing to pay top-dollar for an elite degree.

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Old 09-15-2021, 12:48 PM
 
Location: North Jersey & Central Connecticut
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The price of higher education has skyrocketed and private universities have been at the forefront of that price creep. The tuition at Brandeis University and Tufts alone (neither a nationally known commodity by any means) is now at $60,000 per year.

I can absolutely understand why some top-tier students are saying: "You know what. I can pay $18,000 to go to the University of Virginia, get a Top 25 education, and save $30k from a comparable private university. Why not?" I also think State Universities have gotten really smart about this and have really built up Honors Colleges that compete very well with private universities. Some of them even have eligibility requirements like 32-33 ACT scores (see Michigan State) that basically means you can be surrounded by Ivy League-quality peers without the $$$$$.

I've noticed the same here in D.C. Universities like American University and George Washington University have seen their star fade as tuition has skyrocketed and who wants to pay $57k for a school ranked #50-100? Especially when you can pay $55k and attend Johns Hopkins, a Top 10 university, or $56k for Georgetown, a Top 25.

I think public universities will continue to rise, expensive B-tier private universities will continue to collapse, and Top 25 (and especially Top 50) universities will continue to thrive due to large endowments (Bloomberg casually donates billions to Johns Hopkins) and the continued influx of wealthy Asians who are willing to pay top-dollar for an elite degree.
Exactly and state universities have programs directly linking into good state or federal jobs. Im a phd candidate at a state university. My program is a top 5, way ahead of many other Ivy Leagues and top tier private universities like Tufts or Georgetown.

Costs are lower. Programs are equally good.

Why would you pay quadruple for American University.. when you can go to UF or even Rutgers.. both ranked better?
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Old 09-15-2021, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Albany, NY
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The price of higher education has skyrocketed and private universities have been at the forefront of that price creep. The tuition at Brandeis University and Tufts alone (neither a nationally known commodity by any means) is now at $60,000 per year.

I can absolutely understand why some top-tier students are saying: "You know what. I can pay $18,000 to go to the University of Virginia, get a Top 25 education, and save $30k from a comparable private university. Why not?" I also think State Universities have gotten really smart about this and have really built up Honors Colleges that compete very well with private universities. Some of them even have eligibility requirements like 32-33 ACT scores (see Michigan State) that basically means you can be surrounded by Ivy League-quality peers without the $$$$$.
I think those public universities will continue to do very well, as will small liberal arts colleges with large endowments which in many cases can offer free rides (or at least incredibly generous financial aid) to qualified students. It's the relatively impoverished schools that can't offer that kind of assistance which will increasingly suffer (see the Mills closure/absorption into Northeastern for a recent example).

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